Fire & Earth Podcast E99: Creating the Space for Conscious Innovation with Mayumi Young

In today’s episode we speak with Mayumi Young about how we find happiness and meaning in life.
Through asking the right questions and finding our own “bread crumbs” we will be able to facilitate wonderful and powerful changes in our lives to reach our ultimate potential.

You can learn more about Mayumi and reach her at: https://mayumiyoung.com or https://inspireinnovation.co/about/

Listen in at: http://www.jasonmefford.com/fireandearthpodcast/

Transcript

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kathygruver: Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, I’m your co host Kathy Gruber.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason Medford, and today we have a fellow CPA. We were talking beforehand. I know we’re going to nerd out. No, we’re not going to talk about accounting. Don’t worry, folks talk about that.

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kathygruver: Everyone went

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Jason Mefford: I got on the wrong podcast. No, but

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Jason Mefford: may owe me young is with us today. So, Mami. Welcome.

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Jason Mefford: Why don’t you just, you know, give a short, you know, little background about yourself so people know who you are and then we’re just going to jump in and get get going, because today’s discussion is going to be amazing. That’s crazy. That’s Kathy’s a phrase that I’m stealing from her, but

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Jason Mefford: Amazing.

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Mayumi Young: Well, thank you for having me. I’m very excited to have a conversation with a little bit about me.

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Mayumi Young: I will start by saying I though I am a CPA. Yes, please don’t hold that against me. I’m really here because I create the space where conscious innovation happens. And that’s something that

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Mayumi Young: You know, may not

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Mayumi Young: Be logical or reasonable, but if I share a little bit about my story. I think it’ll make a lot more sense about why I care so much about

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Mayumi Young: Raising consciousness on the planet and why care about innovation and creativity and, you know, rather than be the one who goes out and solves all the world’s problems.

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Mayumi Young: It’s really about creating a space where we can harness the collective consciousness, the collective genius that’s out there and empower and support and inspire everyone

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Mayumi Young: I have devoted the last 20 years of my life as a social entrepreneur I’ve started three social ventures in the last 20 years and I’ve been a CPA and Professional Accountant for over 25 years and I started all of that when I was three course.

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Mayumi Young: And you know, I really just care about

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Mayumi Young: Inspiring and empowering individuals to design and live a life that really matters. I really do believe that tomorrow isn’t promised and we’re here to express will really first to discover and then express our unique gifts and talents and serve

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Mayumi Young: Whoever we choose to serve with those talents and so whatever we can do in our life to

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Mayumi Young: To live that life. That’s what I’m here to do and to accomplish so excited to be here, excited to talk with all of you.

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kathygruver: Yay.

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kathygruver: Oh, that’s okay. So the first thing I have to ask. Yes. So you say CPA everybody goes, Yeah, okay. I know what that is. You talk about gifts and conscious that people go, Yeah, okay. I know what that is, collective consciousness for people who are not familiar with that term.

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kathygruver: What would you, how would you explain that.

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Mayumi Young: Good question. So, you know,

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Mayumi Young: I am from California. So I could go a little whoo, whoo here on everybody. But let me try to stay like I’m very practical and very spiritual at the same time. And so, you know, for me, I do believe that

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Mayumi Young: There is this shared energy. And there’s different levels of consciousness or vibration. You could even say in the world that exists and

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Mayumi Young: We are all connected to that universal or oneness and so we all have, in a way, we’re in somewhat tethered to this.

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Mayumi Young: unlimited amount of information of knowledge of all the world’s problems are are solved in this collective consciousness and I don’t know if anyone’s ever had the personal experience. I know I have

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Mayumi Young: Where you feel like you’ve just been downloaded with information and knowledge that you literally are like I that couldn’t have come from me, and I almost always know that I got a download is when I’m like that can’t be true.

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Mayumi Young: If they start to argue with it or or question it and and it’s it’s usually, you know, all at once and it comes in streams and everybody is different, everyone.

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Mayumi Young: Connects to this universal knowledge universal understanding differently. Some of us are very intuitive and we can feel things in our body. Some of us.

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Mayumi Young: Get downloads and we get this sort of knowing other people just have visions, you know, so each of us are unique in our own ability to connect with this collective consciousness.

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Mayumi Young: And it’s about really developing a muscle in a in a in it’s like learning another language. If we were going to learn Japanese we would, you know,

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Mayumi Young: Get trained and developed and learn how to communicate with these higher bodies of knowledge. I mean, there’s so much about the world in the universe that just simply can’t understand and it’s just fun to tap into all dimensions and domains that are available to us.

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Jason Mefford: Well, a couple of other words that you use to because you said you creating this space.

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Jason Mefford: Right. And I, and I know you know one of the first times I was kind of introduced to this and somebody kind of said that or another term. Sometimes people will use is

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Jason Mefford: You know I’m creating a container right so creating space or creating a container. I know when I first heard that I was like what the hell was I was right.

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Jason Mefford: So maybe kind of explain that, too, because that kind of ties in with this collective consciousness and how how that all kind of comes together, how you kind of help people do that. Absolutely.

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Mayumi Young: Um, I feel like I’m a walking contradiction. Most of the time right in that sort of the yin and the yang all the time, the masculine and the feminine and it’s this

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Mayumi Young: Interesting harmonic dance and balance between the two energies. I’m spiritual material and accountant and yet a profoundly like

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Mayumi Young: About you know the material world. And so, um, so when we talk about creating space. I would say that in the domain of war.

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Mayumi Young: The easiest ways to think about it like the feminine energy anytime you want. It’s like a womb. Great. So a baby.

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Mayumi Young: A baby can is is created inside of a womb in a womb is nothing more than a space.

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Mayumi Young: And in that space new creations are born. So if you just think of the you know how we’re born as human beings just that whole process itself.

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Mayumi Young: You know I’m always saying when I’m creating something new. And, you know, creating a new venture or new business or product or service.

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Mayumi Young: That I’m, I’m, I’m in the process of giving birth to something new. So when you hold something that’s important to you or something, you know, and an outcome that you’re really looking to achieve in your life.

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Mayumi Young: Think about it like you’re pregnant with this new idea. And we give that new idea, time to go through its own evolution evolutionary process. And what’s really beautiful is like a human body doesn’t have to do anything to make a baby. Well, give it some

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Mayumi Young: Basic, you know, with um but so intelligent

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Mayumi Young: That a baby is actually created and mostly what we need to do is give it the space and and so I think the closest analogy is to think about

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Mayumi Young: The actual creation of the human being in the womb and and anytime you want to give life and give birth to something new.

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Mayumi Young: Let it go through that process where you’re pregnant with it and then you know sometimes labor is hard and sometimes labor is easy, but it’s almost always extraordinary when you actually launch a new idea or product or a new whatever

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Mayumi Young: There’s a birthing process. And then there’s a whole new world that follows that. So I think that’s the best way to think of creating space.

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Mayumi Young: And I’m just somebody who creates these wounds. These

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Mayumi Young: Opportunities and openings for people who really struggle. I think a lot of people struggle with the

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Mayumi Young: You know, getting the thought from their brain into real material practical, tangible world where they can touch it and feel it and measuring and that’s the dance. It’s like a lot of people walk around with ideas, but how do you make it real. Yeah.

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kathygruver: Well, I’m Jason I talk all the time about, you know, what do you want and if you don’t know what you really want, then you can’t create that space. It’s like if you’ve got an empty store room.

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kathygruver: If you want to be a massage therapist. It’s going to look really different than if you want to be a hair salon. You have to get the right tools for that thing, but you have to identify what you want. First, and sometimes

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kathygruver: I agree with you completely me about the download thing. It’s just my brain or Simon so much the brain right it’s just sort of being I feel like they cracked that code like in that spy movie and the computer goes blue like suddenly all the information comes down.

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kathygruver: And sometimes that can help inform what you want because you don’t even know you want that thing until it suddenly appears and you and you go, that’s what I’ve been looking for, you know, so it’s this interesting. You can get at it from different directions.

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kathygruver: So really,

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Mayumi Young: Knowing what you want. Sounds like the simplest thing on the planet. And it’s actually one of the hardest things

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Mayumi Young: To discover mostly in the process of discovering what I wanted, or helping others it’s literally figuring out what I don’t want first I can give you all that I don’t want this, and I don’t want

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Mayumi Young: It to like unpeeled the layers to get to what I really want

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Mayumi Young: And I couldn’t agree with you more being clear on what you want. It’s, it’s like it’s like sending your order to this universal, you know, collective conscious and say, Here’s what I would like you to send back to me.

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Mayumi Young: You know, and another way to think of it, because I think analogies really help some, you know, people who are like exactly how does this work, you know, it’s like great jargon. But what does it look like and

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Mayumi Young: You know, it’s like tuning into a radio station and when you turn just in if you’re in between sessions and here static or you’re in between two different songs

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Mayumi Young: But when you tune right in in each station has got different music. So we’re all you know on different frequencies. We’re all trying, you know, tuned into different stations and so when you tune right in. You can hear it clearly it’s so clear.

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Mayumi Young: And it’s just about constantly for us just tuning tuning tuning until we can hear the message clearly that’s for us that’s unique for us.

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Mayumi Young: And then you’ll find that once you. It’s like the red car, things like once you buy a red car all the sudden all the cars are red.

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Mayumi Young: So then you’ll discover all the other people your start to attract into your life all the other people who are tuned in same radio station is you. Yeah.

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Mayumi Young: And so yeah, the, the, the opportunity and I call it an opportunity to actually design.

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Mayumi Young: And create your life is a huge piece of that is really understanding your own core values your purpose, your what you care about what your passions are and really and truly at the end of the day what you want.

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Mayumi Young: And the ability to discover that to me is is really a function of the quality of your questions. So, the better your questions, the better your answers.

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kathygruver: So, given some example what those questions are what should we be asking ourselves.

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Mayumi Young: Um,

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Mayumi Young: Depends on how close you are to knowing what you want. So some people are just like, I have no clue. And I’ll tell you. So I’ll give you a little backstory for me, like, so I

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Mayumi Young: I wasn’t supposed to be like this.

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Mayumi Young: Like, um, you know, I was born in a single family house single, single mother with a single mom, who was born in Japan raised in

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Mayumi Young: On a farm. She had to quit school in the eighth grade because her father passed away and she was the eldest girl of five children.

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Mayumi Young: And when she came to the state she barely knew the language, she you know worked for minimum wage a rope factory and raised me like

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Mayumi Young: I want to put a superwoman cape on her because I don’t know how she did it. But in the framework of the culture that she was raised in in all that she could sacrifice.

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Mayumi Young: The upbringing was, you know, as most of us go get it get an education. She couldn’t eighth grade education. I mean for me to graduate from college was I mean that was success. That’s that was life lived. So going through the motions of life.

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Mayumi Young: Is what most of us are taught and trained to do and when I reached a certain point, so I did the college thing. I went and worked in corporate

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Mayumi Young: Actually public accounting. So I was I was with Price Waterhouse for a while and then I went into private industry I reached a point in my life where

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Mayumi Young: I realized that I had no idea why existed.

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Mayumi Young: I mean I had gone so long, where I call it the sort of default life I gone so long living the plan that was laid out for me never once, considering that I had a say.

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Mayumi Young: Truly a say in what it is I wanted my life to be for that. I just came to a point one day where I

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Mayumi Young: I just, it actually happened in an interaction and you never know when life disorder.

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Mayumi Young: wakes you up and you have that sort of awakening and so many people can talk about with can remember the moment when they just sort of woke up and

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Mayumi Young: And so I was actually in an airport, I was traveling a lot do a lot of international finance and accounting and I was in an airport and

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Mayumi Young: Late 20s and I met a woman and her daughter who was like 10 and she asked me that, you know, what do you do for living. And I gave the, you know, patent. You know, it’s an amazing life answer.

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Mayumi Young: And meanwhile, I was pretty empty inside I would even say I was dead inside. And I gave my answer. And I looked at this 10 year old and she looked

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Mayumi Young: Children are so innocent and pure, I swear. She looked into my soul, just like I and I just, it felt like she understood that I was lying.

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Mayumi Young: And I wanted in that moment to take every word that I said back and say scrap everything I said go figure out what makes you happy go live that life and i didn’t i in that moment I realized I have no idea what I’m supposed to do with my life. None.

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Mayumi Young: But I know one thing and that’s i, this isn’t it.

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Mayumi Young: This isn’t it and just with that tiny

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Mayumi Young: Infinitesimal P of an understanding and awareness. I started from there and started over. And from that moment. Everything about my life was created. So the questions that we can ask ourself can literally start with just

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Mayumi Young: Why am I here. What makes me what gives me joy, um, you know, actually give ourselves. We’re so busy adulterating out here. It’s kind of bananas, but we have to give ourselves permission to have fun and pleasure. Enjoy. And I’m especially, you know, I mean, a very, you know, serious industry numbers.

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Mayumi Young: You know, no make any mistakes. Um, you know and and

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Mayumi Young: We’ve sort of lost our way in a way that joyful youthful innocence and exuberance and play.

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Mayumi Young: And I really feel like one way that we can start to identify and remember because a lot of us have

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Mayumi Young: Denied ourselves permission to want and feel joy and feel pleasure for so long and that we don’t know what that looks like. I swear to you and I’ve been doing this for a long time.

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Mayumi Young: You know, I literally googled that was I got into a right and I wasn’t like being really super

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Mayumi Young: Playful in my life, which happens like even with all this awareness, you can go unconscious and what look up in the year and go, Wait, what am I doing what’s happening here.

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Mayumi Young: And I, and I and I literally was like a year ago or not that long ago I Googled what adults do for fun, because I could

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Mayumi Young: And what I would like.

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Mayumi Young: Absolutely.

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Mayumi Young: I will tell you if there were ideas. Try it. Google it. I mean, literally, I’m like, I need some clue here.

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Mayumi Young: Um, and I happened upon something that reminded me that I really actually love movement and exercise and I’m like addicted to things like eco challenge on Amazon and

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Mayumi Young: You know, all these fun things where it’s play and exercise and health and fitness and all that combined. Anyways, I digress. The bottom line is, it really

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Mayumi Young: The, the place to ask questions is, whatever is there that I think lead you to more joy start their business feel good.

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Mayumi Young: Does this feel bad, even just a simple asking, moment to moment. Do I like that. Does that make me feel good or. Does that not make me feel good, which direction am I moving and as you kind of move

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Mayumi Young: More in the direction of what feels good, then it’ll get easier to ask more clarifying questions more specific questions.

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Mayumi Young: I think staying general in the beginning is a little easier than trying to get super specific especially if you really are kind of where I was just starting with, like, I don’t know what my life is for

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Mayumi Young: I don’t know why I’m here. I don’t know what makes me happy. And when you’re that far away from your own truth in your own fulfillment then start general and then start to narrow your questions.

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Mayumi Young: As you go along and

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Mayumi Young: You know I asked all the questions the why, the what the who, what, when, where, and the house so you know why questions are really great. Why am I here.

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Mayumi Young: What is my purpose. What makes me happy. What am I passions, who do I know that I can talk to who do I admire, who do I respect, um, you know, where can I go to get more information. Where can I go to get support, you know, when do I want to make a change in my life. When you know

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Mayumi Young: You know how much of this, am I going to tolerate you know either. So many like you can ask all of those questions.

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kathygruver: I’m going to be the contrary voice because I love playing this part, please. But it’s so much easier.

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kathygruver: To just get up and go to work and come home and watch the news and drink something and watch Netflix and go to bed and not think about purpose. It’s so much easier to just be in my humdrum

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kathygruver: Normal like not reach her too much, because then if I don’t reach her too much. I can’t be disappointed because then I’m gonna have to work harder if I want to be this like important life changing person, so I’m just gonna stay here watch Netflix.

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Mayumi Young: Well,

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Mayumi Young: So I think it’s an illusion. And it’s a story we tell ourselves that it’s easier because it’s really hard to deny ourselves, our natural

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Mayumi Young: Our True natural being this is it. We have to, like, it’s like trying to push a ball under water and we’re constantly holding that ball into water.

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Mayumi Young: It wants to pop up. And so we have to exert a lot of energy and forced to actually deny ourselves, our true glorious extraordinary life and we become numb to it and how we continue to numb ourselves to that is through TV media it’s, you know, through

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Mayumi Young: Alcohol through drugs through you know work. I mean, that was my drug of choice.

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Mayumi Young: Yeah, I had retail therapy and then I had work and I would just bury myself in one of the two. And, you know, that was way I could kind of put my head in the sand. But the reality is you still suffer inside

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Mayumi Young: If you really got quiet and alone enough and a lot of folks that are

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Mayumi Young: Have been isolated with the global pandemic have had this reconciliation with themselves of having to be quiet and still long enough.

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Mayumi Young: To hear all that stuff that’s been pushed under the surface so many of us have been resigned and cynical and we just have gone numb.

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Mayumi Young: And in this a lot of I Know there. I don’t want to diminish that that negative impact for so many people and what it’s done.

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Mayumi Young: From health and life and financial impact and everything else. So that in mind, I want to add that this

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Mayumi Young: Whole global experience is a blessing in disguise. For those who look to see that this is really a blessing. It’s an opportunity for us to to

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Mayumi Young: And numbing ourselves that we can actually discover ourselves and you know I most of us have to get the cosmic two by four or the cosmic mack truck to really appreciate life.

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Mayumi Young: I got it early. I was 19 when my mother’s father, my, my mother’s partner of 11 years passed away. Suddenly within a couple of months of being diagnosed of stage four cancer and at that time at

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Mayumi Young: My understanding was that everyone who had cancer survived. I, that was my experience at that time. So being faced with the impermanence of life. So early on.

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Mayumi Young: And the opportunity to understand that tomorrow isn’t promised and to get that message and to be reminded of that without having to have a life event knock us out.

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Mayumi Young: Whether it’s a health event or financial or relationship divorce and all these life like massive life altering events are generally where we wake up from the numbness and if we can find and get

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Mayumi Young: Proactive in our own evolution process, then we can be more gentle and more. We have a little bit more say over it. I always know when I’m not getting the message when it’s time to like

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Mayumi Young: Evolve and I’m getting a little bit too comfortable if I start to get the taps. Hey, get moving. Get moving and like, but I’m so comfortable. I work so hard to get here. Can I just say down here. Do I really have to go work on myself so far. Well, Coach.

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Mayumi Young: I get the cosmic two by four and yeah

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Jason Mefford: I was gonna say you keep getting the taps until the two before it comes out right and you

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Mayumi Young: Don’t listen, then you get a Mack truck. Yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Yeah, and it’s you know what what you’re describing, you know, again, I mean we’ve had similar professional backgrounds and you see people some so much of the time that you know they they do what’s expected of them.

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Jason Mefford: Right. And, and so they get told these stories that this is what your life has to be and it doesn’t matter about profession, you can still have fun and be living your purpose and be a CPA.

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Jason Mefford: Okay, but it’s but it’s so many of us go through life for so long, like you said, getting the taps and then eventually we get the two before we get the mack truck.

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Jason Mefford: And that’s why that term midlife crisis is there, right, for most people.

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Jason Mefford: We go through our lives we get married. We have some kids. We have a career, all of a sudden we lift up our head at 45 or 50 and go, What the fuck just happened right

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Jason Mefford: And we kind of get that that to before. At that point, you know, you were so lucky that you know your late 20s.

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Jason Mefford: To have some of that and and to have you start thinking about these things and moving your life and dancing through life differently because that analogy that you had of the of the ball trying to push it under the water.

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kathygruver: It’s a great right

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Jason Mefford: It’s, it’s, it’s hard to do that. But what most people are doing. They’re trying to push that ball down for 2030 years

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Jason Mefford: And then when they’re overweight when they’re addicted. When you know whatever it is you go through all these different things it could end up being your to before they’re like why did this just happen.

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Jason Mefford: Well, because you’ve spent the last 20 years trying to push yourself down and be someone who you are not

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Jason Mefford: Right, that’s cognitive dissonance from psychology that that’s grooves people up. That’s why there’s so many people in depression.

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Jason Mefford: And anxiety in with all of these things that are going on. And the sooner that we can start asking ourselves these questions like, you’re talking about, then we can let the real us out right and quit pushing the ball down

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kathygruver: Exactly. So we’re running out of time. Again, because this is what we do.

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kathygruver: Universe is timeless. We have a time a final thoughts. Anything you want to add any practical tip that you can give us just in the last couple minutes to help people get on this road.

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Mayumi Young: Yeah, I would say, you know, whatever resource calls to you. I mean, look for the clues. You’ll be walking around somebody like yo,

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Mayumi Young: I think you should read this book and then you don’t get the book and three weeks later, somebody else recommends the same book that’s a sign.

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Mayumi Young: You know, follow the signs start to pay more attention to things that look like coincidence but maybe aren’t and they’re like little breadcrumb clues. I would find

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Mayumi Young: Answers everywhere. They’re in random conversations in the grocery store line there in books there in movies. They’re in conversations there in podcast. They’re everywhere.

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Mayumi Young: And don’t be afraid. Like there’s only one place that I can go to get answers. I can only go to my spiritual or religious you know centers or I need to go to my coach know if they’re everywhere all the time every day.

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Mayumi Young: And one thing that you can do that I think was a fun thing if you want to start to stimulate

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Mayumi Young: Sort of your awareness is set out to have EVERYDAY BE A miracle and you get to say what a miracle is to me. Um, if I believed that if I found $1

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Mayumi Young: But that was my miracle for the day because that was money $1 more than I had that day, you get to claim the miracle as small as it is as big it is, as it is.

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Mayumi Young: And if you look every day for something wonderful something miraculous something that makes you happy and or could find gratitude for things

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Mayumi Young: You’ll start to see more and more and more and more of it. And then you’ll start to experience life in a completely different place to hide or we can raise our vibration

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Mayumi Young: Google things like maps of consciousness and different energies, there’s amazing books out there asking, it’s given us fantastic anything with David Hawkins and power vs for

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Mayumi Young: That’s the work that we get to do in the world. And when I think about making an impact and being somebody who wants to make a difference. And I know many of you out there are like me, you have, you know, the were born for great things you want to have a massive impact.

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Mayumi Young: The job of us is to raise our own consciousness raise our own energy raise our own vibration first. And I think there’s something like if we get ourselves up to the level of peace. We can impact.

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Mayumi Young: Like 20 million people on the planet, just by raising our own selves, put the mask on yourself first, and you buy in the essence of doing that you help others.

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Mayumi Young: So our job on this planet today is to live extraordinarily joyful align and fulfilled lives. Know thyself into myself be true. You get to live this extraordinary life and I really empower encourage each of you to take one step forward today designing a life that matters to you.

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kathygruver: I love it and just all through

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kathygruver: Science and real quick because I know you guys got to talk about that. So I get to be a nerd to

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kathygruver: Our brain looks towards things that we’re familiar with our brain moves towards thing that we already know to be true. This is why so many women, unfortunately, stay in an abusive relationship.

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kathygruver: Or we stay in a job. We don’t like it’s safer for our brain to stay stuck and unhappy. Just because we know it than it is to move forward.

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kathygruver: So if every day and I love what you said, whether it’s finding that dollar you you go to pull the old pants out of the washer, you’re like oh my god there’s 20 bucks or it’s this

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kathygruver: Moment of perfection of the connection with the cat or the sunset or a beautiful flower. If we continue to look at those things.

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kathygruver: We’re going to find more and more of those things. That’s what the brain does it looks towards things that we’re familiar with. So I, I love that looking for little miracles every day and re reframing what miracle means to you, you know, it’s great, Jason final word. And then we’ll uh

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Jason Mefford: Well, you know, the one thing too that I wanted to reiterate is kind of following that some of the signs and the breadcrumbs. You know as well and that

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Jason Mefford: They’re all over the place. So everybody that’s listening. Here’s a personal experience for me today. I woke up this morning with a certain thought in my mind.

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Jason Mefford: As we have been talking today on this podcast. It went okay so I didn’t plan this, I didn’t know what we were going to talk about today.

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Jason Mefford: But the universe is trying to tell me something, and I got my answer just from listening to this, right, so we’re all going through this

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Jason Mefford: And and look for those little signs, because they’re all over the place. And the more you turn in that radio right because back. I love that. I love the analogy of the womb as well.

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Jason Mefford: A woman doesn’t have to sit there and think and do a bunch of stuff every single day. Right. She just has to tune in and and the baby grows

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Jason Mefford: Right. And as we tap into that collective consciousness as we tune in to what we have to do to tune in.

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Jason Mefford: Everything else is going to take care of itself. If you’re doing the little things right, you got to eat every day. Maybe take your prenatal vitamins. But that’s about all you gotta do.

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Jason Mefford: Right to stay healthy and everything else takes care of itself. And it will. I mean, we’ve got three people on the show right now they can that are proof of that.

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Jason Mefford: As well. So I hope that everybody continues to do that and Naomi. This was amazing. Thank you.

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kathygruver: Great episode, so maybe how can people reach you, if they want to get ahold of you.

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Mayumi Young: Probably the best way. It’s just on my personal website, which is my Umi young calm and it’s me why you. Am I young Y o u n g calm.

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Mayumi Young: You know, I’m a tool geek. I love tools and technology and things that helps. So to the extent that I can suggest books are tools I’m big into personality profiling anything that’s going to give us a little bit of an edge.

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Mayumi Young: That helps us along our journey. I take it all. I’m the consumer of coaching and mentoring and masterminds and all of it so

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Mayumi Young: Any place where you find resonance. You know, I know. Kathy, I believe you’ve got training and Jason you as well. I mean, if you have resonance and connection with somebody that’s generally assign like

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Mayumi Young: Go forward go connect with them further and learn or about how you can be closer in in their space because each person creates a space and

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Mayumi Young: It less less everyone’s thinking and less everyone’s consciousness. So I think that’s probably the best way to connect with me. And if I can serve you, or support you on your journey. It’d be my pleasure.

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kathygruver: Yay, so maybe I’m dot com everybody head out do that I’m Kathy groove where I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason effort. I can be reached at Jason Medford calm, so go out start looking for those signs live the best life that you can, and we’ll catch you on a future episode of the fire and earth podcast. We’ll see you. Yeah. Thank you.