Have you ever wanted to change something in your life, but try as you might you just can’t consciously change it? I know I have.

That’s why I am excited to talk with my friend Ewelina Szczeblewska on this #jammingwithjason #podcast episode about #hypnosis, and lots of other things. Since 95% of what we do is subconscious, it’s a broken strategy to keep trying to think our way into change. You can’t consciously change something programmed into your subconscious mind.

Often the problem was created by something we either don’t consciously remember, or seems to have nothing to do with what’s holing you back.

Hypnosis is a very natural state that you experience every day. It allows you to access your subconscious mind where you are able to delve deep into your feeling, beliefs and thoughts, that influence your life and make sense of all of them with the critical mind. Everything that you feel and experience during a hypnotic session is part of you already. Hypnotherapy enables you to create a conscious change in the form of new beliefs, behaviours, new patterns, ideas and feelings.

As with all episodes, we talking about so much more than just this. So, whatever you do listen to the entire episode and then share with your friends and family. When you do, you will hear exactly what you need to hear today that will help you BE more authentic, confident, mindful, and emotionally intelligent.

Reach out Ewelina at: https://www.bravingthebeing.com/ or through Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ewelina_j_szczeblewska/

Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Welcome to another episode of jamming with Jason hey today i’m speaking with my friend evelina and we’re going to talk.

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Jason Mefford: Who knows what we’re going to talk about right that’s what always happens on these podcasts but.

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Jason Mefford: she’s a hypnotherapist i’m sure we’re going to talk a little bit about that, but she has a very interesting story too so.

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Jason Mefford: Whatever you do take a listen to this entire episode because you’re going to hear something in the episode today, that is exactly what you need to hear today so with that let’s roll the episode.

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Jason Mefford: Alright evelina, it is nice to have you here with me today how are you doing.

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Ewelina: i’m great, and thank you for having me it’s absolute absolute pleasure to be here.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I hope you say that at the end to.

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Jason Mefford: Now, because i’m all about you know, trying to have some fun and and trying to be authentic so i’m going to.

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Jason Mefford: Try to pronounce your last name correctly and i’m probably going to butcher it so we’re going to get to have a little little joke about it.

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Jason Mefford: But I think it’ll it’ll kind of tie in to to to the story your story as well right so see if I can say it right, this time again should look to bliss bliss i’d be.

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Ewelina: so out of before.

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Jason Mefford: So, well before.

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Jason Mefford: The blessed bless.

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Jason Mefford: blue sky blue sky blue sky.

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Ewelina: is black sky.

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Jason Mefford: To bless can okay.

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Jason Mefford: Here we go that was better all right.

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Jason Mefford: Now so so maybe let’s just start, because I know you know as you talk, people are going to.

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Jason Mefford: are going to pick up a little bit so you where did you grow up where do you live now because I think I think this is kind of important to the story, too, is as far as who you are and how you’ve kind of journey in your life as well.

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Ewelina: yeah absolutely I think you does, because it really impacted toy, I am as a person and i’m Polish As you can hear, probably in my accent, however, I can probably also hear some Scottish.

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Ewelina: In my accent too, because I live in Scotland, for the last 17 years, which is a wild almost half of my life.

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Jason Mefford: yeah quite but close I know the older the older we get 20 years doesn’t seem like very much does it.

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Ewelina: Absolutely not so i’m going to kind of go to do my age here, but I came here when I was 21 and i’ve been here for about 17 so it’s kind of half and half and so i’m a person of two half see if I can see it it’s because I am very much polish up my heart.

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Ewelina: really feel strong connection to that part of me, however, I do also feel that might may sound a bit cliche a citizen of the world.

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Ewelina: Because I love traveling I absolutely love exploring the world, and it was one of the reasons why I left, because I was eager to go and see the world and growing up in a Poland very much a communist and post Communist country, we were very restricted where we can go on what we can do.

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Ewelina: And I guess that’s the rebellious side of me was like okay well wait when can I go and what can I see and I, you know, and I did it eventually I did leave.

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Ewelina: which was a huge step to.

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Ewelina: A young person to see a completely different world to the one I grew up with.

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Jason Mefford: yeah no well because you know, again as we’re talking here because it’s will tie it, I mean a little bit from my for my background to right is that you know, so you grew up in Poland under the Communist regime.

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Jason Mefford: yeah you saw everything you know kind of come apart, if you will, and then emigrated to Scotland right so you’ve.

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Jason Mefford: seen some very interesting.

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Jason Mefford: Things you know similar I lived in Germany for a little while, and it was the first time I went to Germany, it was when the Wall was still up.

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Jason Mefford: at nine just before the Wall came down.

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Jason Mefford: There, and so I got to know a lot of people that grew up in the eastern side.

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Jason Mefford: yeah Germany and kind of hear what their childhood was like versus you know in you kind of experience that sounds like a very, very similar kind of thing in your life as well.

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Ewelina: yeah because you know I am Soviet Union part of who are part of the Soviet Union, from 1989 so my childhood is very different to my peers from Scotland from UK from the Western world relay which is kind of amazing I quite often and relate deeply with people who are twice my age.

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Ewelina: But maybe come from here, because their childhood resembled more to what i’ve experienced.

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Ewelina: Okay yeah people my age.

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Jason Mefford: yeah because they were living through the Second World War and the clamp Downs and the the other stuff that was kind of going on there in the UK.

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Jason Mefford: Time yesterday.

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Ewelina: And you know I grew up on with hydration Russians, I will say this.

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Ewelina: You know cards for chocolate and and cylindrical I remember all this, but if you speak to someone my age here is like I don’t know we talk about like you know and and I can see why because, as we changed everything was the shops.

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Ewelina: Were before nothing was.

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Ewelina: Yet there was like a you know, a massive shaft so maybe there was everything in shops, where people had no money to buy this and you cannot change i’ll go through such a deep change without problems, you know, going from communism to democracy you gonna have cracks gonna have problems.

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Jason Mefford: Well, you and you’ve got because, because where I want to kind of ask you a few questions about this too, because it’s so my mother in law grew up in England.

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Jason Mefford: You know, at the time of the war and so there’s a few things like that, like she has this thing about food.

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Jason Mefford: Right and, and I mean it’s July and she’s worried about what we’re going to be having for Christmas dinner yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Or, the first thing you know when she comes over she’s like So what are we having for dinner and it’s like I don’t know it’s like six hours will decide then right.

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Jason Mefford: yeah but, but you know what when we understand more about her childhood, which it sounds like was kind of similar to yours right she grew up on rations.

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Jason Mefford: They grew up you know not having much food during the war and so as a little girl, a lot of those things kind of got programmed into her.

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Jason Mefford: yeah that now it doesn’t really matter right but it, but it still kind of becomes a part of of who she was, and so I again i’m guessing for you.

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Jason Mefford: You know kind of going from Communist Poland to not Communist Poland was probably a change, but then going to Scotland, you know there’s but there’s still this part of you that remembers right.

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Ewelina: Oh absolutely it was a massive cultural shock when I came here because I grew up with limited 30 so I had a plot of land which.

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Ewelina: Was the savior because my mom always made jars of food so basically the summer I was like right okay well we’re going to go over the winter.

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Ewelina: So we had a potluck blood plot of land and i’m always make lots of food, so we can you know have over the winter.

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Ewelina: And so, for me, program is like you have to be careful with your food, how you eat you know, we were not allowed to the food on the plate and stuff like this it was no managing taffy you know how you.

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Ewelina: say you know, I was programmed to perceive food and the world in a certain way, because this was my reality.

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Ewelina: So when I came to Scotland, it was a big cultural shock because I left where a family, because I came here, as all pair.

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Ewelina: And the fridge was full of food and most of that always ended up in a bin and I couldn’t wrap my head around it.

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Ewelina: Why did they do this because you know coming from where food is scarce and you have to be careful how you go about it to a household wire and it couldn’t care less, but all it seemed to me like that you know at the time.

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Ewelina: different entities, they grew up in a different valleys to mine they didn’t see the world the way I did.

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Ewelina: Because he grew up somewhere else, so my perception of the world was very different.

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Jason Mefford: Well, it really I mean it’s it’s that way for all of us, I think right be good, because, like you said, I mean I love that idea of kind of a citizen of the world, I would love to turn in my us passport and just have like an international passport if I was.

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Jason Mefford: allowed to do that, but you can’t write.

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Ewelina: That would be awesome to be amazing right.

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Jason Mefford: But, but you know we all come from different backgrounds.

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Jason Mefford: And then I heard you use a word that I want to talk a little bit more about, because this is going to tie into some of the hypnotherapy stuff to talk about.

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Jason Mefford: Is that you use the word Program.

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Jason Mefford: Right is that you know it sounds like as we’re growing up, as we go through, and have some of these different experiences.

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Jason Mefford: we’re programmed to believe certain things right, just like you said you grew up in Poland, it was you, it was food was scarce, so you grew up with certain beliefs or were programmed to have certain beliefs, that when you got the Scotland it’s like.

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Jason Mefford: it’s totally different right full refrigerator they’re throwing out the food all the time and you’re like glad there’s they’re starving people in Poland right.

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Jason Mefford: Parents always say starving people in China right eat your dinner but but that kind of an idea right, and so, how does that.

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Jason Mefford: You know I know for you, you probably had to make some changes in yourself to go from how you were programmed as a child to how you’re living today right because you can live in Scotland, with all the same, beliefs and acting the same way as you did when you were a child in Poland right.

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Ewelina: yeah It was a difficult period because back then I didn’t understand any of it, I didn’t know anything about.

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Ewelina: mind how we learn the way we perceive the world and our beliefs, how we go about to have certain beliefs, why I see the world this way or.

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Ewelina: let’s say i’ve got two younger brothers and they are very different to me than unnecessarily hold the same beliefs, about the world.

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Ewelina: And to give you the example my younger brother came to Scotland, when he was 12 I was 21 again he’s a very different person than I am, because he said ality growing up in Poland was very different to mine.

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Ewelina: was born in 93 you know fallen was free democracy for don’t shelves no problems, you know government doesn’t really restricts your movements, you can do whatever you want.

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Ewelina: I grew up in a different reality so again we coming from the same household Delia very different people.

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Ewelina: And he feels very Scottish but a Western child and he doesn’t feel Polish at all, because he.

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Ewelina: grew up here pretty much you know you know that difficult age 1112 and usually shave yourself as a person he was here in Scotland.

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Ewelina: And so, when I came my world to go turn upside down because the way I was treated the way people were behaving here everyone says soda every other day, you know every other world and I apologize i’m sorry i’m sorry and i’m like why you keep saying sorry I.

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Ewelina: didn’t do anything will keep up the apologizing to me and it took a while for me to get used to this tea, to see the world through the prism of you know, living in a different world, and I remember when I maybe when to Paul and a few years later, maybe visit my mom or something.

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Ewelina: And differences between the two characters were so massive because the fact that no one really sets or in a shop, you know, or like no one like that you know cultural way of in.

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Ewelina: If you’ve been to England before so you know everyone’s like oh i’m sorry I bumped into your i’m sorry I didn’t give you that everyone is keep apologizing and no one really does that April and so.

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Ewelina: living here for a few years and then I visited fall and suddenly it was like oh no what why no one, no one says.

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Ewelina: No one apologizes we don’t say up soda that the culture should was very visible to me because I was a few years here not really living there anymore, I was getting used to their letitia and then I go on holiday and it’s like whoa.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and that’s interesting because it brings up you know so much of the time it’s you know there’s an old native American saying it kind of goes, you know you never know someone else until you walk a day in their mark in their moccasins.

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Jason Mefford: That you know it’s it’s you know how much of the time in the world are people saying how can you not say you’re sorry oh my gosh you know you’re so rude or whatever it is right, we make all these.

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Jason Mefford: interpretations about how somebody acts or what they do, or what they believe without really understanding, who they are, as a person, and maybe why they feel that way.

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Jason Mefford: Absolutely right, and so, so you having that experience that’s why I love I love traveling too, because it gives us a feeling of how others in the world perceive the world or why they do things the way that they do.

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Ewelina: Under percent.

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Ewelina: But that’s why I love traveling because you get to see.

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Ewelina: The perspective of the world from a different angle.

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Ewelina: And just because it’s different it doesn’t mean is better or worse it’s just different.

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Ewelina: And as you say you need to walk in someone else’s shoes for either to know really why they are the way they are, and in a now it doesn’t really bother me in any shape or form because I know so much about the mind know being a hypnotherapist I understand the mind.

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Ewelina: But back then, it was very visible to me still being quite young person, you know I still had that internal battle in myself, you know, leaving between two different worlds I didn’t really fully understand.

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Ewelina: Why, that is, this way you know, there was all those questions that I had in my head, I had a long term, our battles in myself and I wasn’t happy with my life, yet I didn’t do anything about changing those because I didn’t understand you know why I created my life, the way I know I know.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and maybe let’s talk about that a little bit because this this might help kind of.

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Jason Mefford: You know I know you’ve kind of come on a journey, I mean like you said you know when you first went to Scotland, you were an au pair.

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Jason Mefford: So that was one kind of job i’m sure you had other different jobs in between and i’ll ended up becoming a hypnotherapist so we’ll get him to kind of talk a little bit about that, but.

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Jason Mefford: But I think what’s what’s interesting is what you just kind of said there that i’m sure, a lot of people listening can feel this way because I feel this way and.

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Jason Mefford: You just said, you felt this way where you know, sometimes we kind of wake up and we want, we want our life to be different.

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Jason Mefford: hmm but we just can’t figure out why right we’re not happy.

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Ewelina: yeah.

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Jason Mefford: But we can’t figure out what it is that we have to do, different to to to make our life better.

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Jason Mefford: To be different so maybe let’s talk, talk a little bit about that because i’m sure again, you know you have a lot of people that they come to you in that same situation right, I mean how, how do we, how do we deal with that.

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Ewelina: yeah So if I relate it back to my story um so I quite quickly got into a relationship, when I came here.

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Ewelina: Not realizing that I recreated my childhood.

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Ewelina: And vironment in this relationship, so I got into relationship with someone who had.

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Ewelina: struggled with expressing emotions and so today, you know i’m as guilty yeah yeah.

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Ewelina: And, but basically that’s it created a relationship that I had with my mom at the time were you know unhealthy on an emotional level, because my mom didn’t express emotions and now she can seize seed as.

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Ewelina: Well, back then, she didn’t know, and I did another I recreated exactly my childhood in my adult relationships.

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Ewelina: Because that’s how the mind works vehicle for what we know what’s familiar to us unknown to us and that’s why I did.

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Ewelina: And you know few years, then I was like well i’m unhappy, but why am I unhappy you know it’s like it’s nothing wrong with my auto ship is okay i’m Okay, with good good jobs, you know everything seems hunky dory on the surface.

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Ewelina: Yet i’m not really satisfied with myself and with my life and and.

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Ewelina: I wanted to go travelling he didn’t want to do so, I did I went to university because I really needed to do something with myself, I was like I was not happy.

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Ewelina: By doesn’t know what you know how to tackle this how to you know bite into his word and I mean it’s like like you said you notice, something is not working, but I couldn’t pinpoint what.

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Ewelina: And then needed to do something, so I went to uni university and which I always wanted to do so, I did, and again still wasn’t that wasn’t still kind of fixing what I wanted to effects, you know the rush it fell apart.

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Ewelina: In the end, and I struggled with depression after that a bad because on the one swap i’ve lost everything I lost my relationship and love the environment, I lived in i’ve lost my job, my whole world got turned upside down.

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Ewelina: But it wasn’t good you know now, I can see, this was for the better, you know at the time I was like oh my God what’s going on.

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Ewelina: But now I know it was for the better and.

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Ewelina: I got a very good job after that, and it seems our was like yeah it’s no more depression, I feel amazing cloud seven everything is good.

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Ewelina: and out of the blue, I kind of got a depressive spell again and I was like whoa okay what’s going on in here there’s no reason actually no reason to feel like this, so I fought and away.

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Ewelina: You know i’ve got good job i’ve got the money you know i’ve got a lovely House what is going on here and I started to look into it, because.

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Ewelina: It was very uncomfortable to me, you know were on a surface again on a surface my life looked fine absolutely nothing to worry about yet inside our screaming in pain and I didn’t know how to tackle it.

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Ewelina: and other side to it as well you know, I was being single trying to date and that didn’t go anywhere and after a while I was like i’m the common denominator is here in the mirror i’m looking at it.

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Jason Mefford: that’s a hard discussion to have, though isn’t it.

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Ewelina: It is it took me a while to get to this point today like Okay, this is something going on wrong here and the common denominator is me.

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Ewelina: But that really it’s almost like I needed to hit the rock bottom to kind of like Okay, I need to have a really long hard look at myself yeah.

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Ewelina: Because i’m the government, and I mean data here and that’s how I started to look into things are there, what can I do.

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Ewelina: Why do I feel like this, what is out there for me to try, maybe coaching maybe some courses and I start reading self help books.

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Ewelina: Nothing was really satisfying me like nothing was really like aged alert, but I felt like a crack the door open and they didn’t go any further than that, so I sort of light like Okay, but that doesn’t solve the issue.

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Ewelina: So it kept certain, and so I kept looking and eventually I landed on marissa here, and she just hypnotherapy and I went to see her in London and I was like whoa doesn’t sounds like the thing I need.

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Ewelina: because she explain exactly why we struggle so much because we learn, who we are and our beliefs patterns, we could eat certain associations.

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Ewelina: From basically the day we are being born, so I created certain associations were let’s see my mom my mom was emotionally unavailable to me so for me, I learned that a loving, so to speak, of your relationship is with someone who doesn’t show you love and affection and emotion.

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Ewelina: Because when I created that belief, I was a little girl who couldn’t understand, this is not the right pattern, this is not the right belief.

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Ewelina: that this was my belief and that’s why we created in my adulthood relationship, but I didn’t know that’s what I did.

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Ewelina: So something was missing something was not right because inside I was literally screaming in pain like I need the love and affection for myself, as well as you know, my ex partner, because I wasn’t in a loving relationship with myself.

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Ewelina: And that’s the by far the most important relationship we need to foster and I was feeling myself, you know I wasn’t treating myself right I wasn’t.

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Ewelina: looking after my mental health, and you know any kind of I was always accident active so that wasn’t the problem but.

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Ewelina: On an emotional level, I was you know feeling myself and I didn’t know that’s what i’m doing so I don’t have a healthy relationship with myself, so I can create a healthier relationship with another person.

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Ewelina: Because if you’ve got a broken person you’re going to attract the broken person.

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Jason Mefford: yep and that’s what that’s why people keep going so much of the time from relationship to.

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Jason Mefford: relationship to relationship right because they think the other person is going to fix themselves, but until we fix ourselves right.

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Ewelina: Absolutely, and I guess i’m someone who’s always been very eager to learn to explore someone who doesn’t accept start to squat and I think that’s really helped me because I was like Okay, this is enough is enough is enough.

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Ewelina: You know, being in the early far it sounds like i’ve got a whole lifetime or two ahead of me I need to get to the bottom of this I can’t live like this, this is not a way to live.

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Ewelina: And that’s already.

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Ewelina: helped me to keep going to keep searching to keep looking for solution because I wasn’t satisfied with what I was getting.

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Ewelina: From life because I was like this is must be more surely i’m not just here to you know get up go to work go home and go to bed actually there’s more, and this, you know, as you know.

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Ewelina: life is beautiful effort used to make it beautiful.

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Jason Mefford: yeah it is, and so you know again you, you said you kind of found this person in London.

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Jason Mefford: So so let’s let’s talk a little bit about that because, again, like you said you know you’ve been programmed or I.

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Jason Mefford: use that word again right is it your experiences over time it kind of programmed you to believe certain things you do to do certain things the way you do it right so.

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Jason Mefford: So what was it about hypnotherapy that really kind of resonated with you and how did it help you get past that pain that you were actually feeling.

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Ewelina: So what’s so beautiful about having a terrible is that we.

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Ewelina: want work where’s the problem at the core level.

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Ewelina: it’s basically we’re getting to the source of the problem we’re not dealing just with the so professional issue because we often will present itself as the problem is not necessarily the problem is a coping mechanism that we developed.

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Ewelina: And so my coping mechanism was.

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Ewelina: I decided not to open up to people I created a wall, no one really could get into me because that meant to open up to be vulnerable to be seen.

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Ewelina: And that means open to love, which I that something was never shown to me.

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Ewelina: in any shape or form because my mom didn’t do it my dad was never around my granny the person that really was the only person that I perceive and interpreted as a person that loved me died when I was eight.

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Ewelina: And it’s only until I started digging in my mind that you realize the heritage really impacted me deeply I have never associated with much pain again because I put up the wall and never allowed up having to enter me.

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Ewelina: And so.

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Ewelina: I created this wall, so my you know problem that I was facing was I can’t force the connections, no one really liked me and why because I created a wall, I never allowed to no one.

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Ewelina: But a real problem was, I had a wrong belief.

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Ewelina: might believe I have your relationship is with someone.

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Ewelina: And that created.

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Ewelina: So what have nasa’s allows is going into that deeper level.

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Ewelina: Where the problem was created, because then we can realize Okay, so the problem is X y&z you create the disability based upon what happened to you something happened.

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Ewelina: your mind created certain association created set of patterns that we need to untangled us with in our adult critical logical mind from upon where we are now and then we can okay what believes that service Okay, the.

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Ewelina: correct, but if I can see this in a healthy relationship for someone who’s dealt with the troubles with the trauma it’s able to be vulnerable and open up, and you know able to foster happy collection, not with someone who withholds emotions.

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Ewelina: So have nurses, allow us to get into that deeper layer that deeper level of the mind where all the problems are created.

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Ewelina: store and now rolling our lives from the shadows and for the most part we don’t even know.

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Ewelina: They are they’re directing our artists our decisions.

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Ewelina: Because we think we consciously made a decision that we haven’t because before we even get to think Okay, I need to make a decision, your mind or where they went past for okay X, Y and.

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Ewelina: X y&z happened to you in our past and you reacted to this way, and you created that belief and that pattern That means we need to follow this.

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Ewelina: And this is the decision you’re going to make so before you even consciously firebird all that already happened, either in the back of your mind and then you think oh yeah i’ve made the decision process it happened.

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Jason Mefford: Well that’s why yeah cuz there’s there’s a lot of studies, I mean you and I both know this right that 95 I think 95% of my session we make our subconscious so we think we’re making these decisions consciously but we’re not it’s all.

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Jason Mefford: Our subconscious so.

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Jason Mefford: So I want to kind of put an analogy out there to kind of.

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Jason Mefford: summarize a little bit of what you’ve been talking about to make sure that you know, everybody to this list and kind of understands this right, but you know as we’ve been talking about as we grow up, as we have experiences in our life it’s like we’re a computer program.

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Jason Mefford: Right and so.

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Jason Mefford: All of these different experiences things that we have relationships with certain people.

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Jason Mefford: Everything that we have is like there’s there’s a little you know computer coder in a brain that’s coding these things into us right, so that we know hey next time I get into a relationship, I want to find somebody that’s emotionally unavailable because that’s what I believe right is.

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Jason Mefford: What a loving relationship means based on how i’ve been programmed, and so you know the problem is, you know again we’ve got years and years and years of this code being wrote written in our subconscious.

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Jason Mefford: And even and that’s why so much of the time, like you said you know consciously you were like I don’t want this, but I.

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Jason Mefford: can’t figure out why because it’s recorded in the subconscious or conscious isn’t going to know that, but you know, even if we consciously realize hold it i’ve got some bad programming that I need to redo until we actually reprogram that line of code.

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Jason Mefford: So we can consciously all we want to say no damn it, I know that i’m emotionally unavailable because my mother, whoever you know helped me to learn that so i’m going to think about it hard enough, and next time i’m just not going to do it that way it doesn’t work, though it.

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Ewelina: doesn’t work that way that’s that’s everything that’s the problem it doesn’t work the way because, because as long as we are aware and conscious, you probably can hold to your decision to a point.

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Ewelina: Where we can stay conscious and aware all the time, because we will be exhausted by nine o’clock in the morning.

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Ewelina: We have subconscious mind for a reason you have us to preserve energy, so we don’t have to consciously think about everything that we need to know and remember.

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Ewelina: If you want to think like oh i’m not program I know what i’m doing so, think about if you get up in the morning.

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Ewelina: You don’t think it’s like I need to get up and I always go on the Left and I put my right foot on the floor and then left and then okay what’s next and the left.

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Ewelina: All right, okay next or cup of tea you just do it automatically just happens you don’t think about it, you just follow your artists on.

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Ewelina: That instinct and that’s the subconscious programming you program yourself that this is your morning routine and you repeat it over and over every day, and the more you repeat the more ingrained the pattern becomes.

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Ewelina: subconscious is very much needed, you know it helps us to store value better important information helps us to preserve energy.

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Ewelina: As we go for today we get tired, because we use mental capacity to think of all things we do things and so it’s needed and he’s helpful as long as programming in the subconscious mind serves us.

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Ewelina: To the code, so you know it’s like you thought you operate on what was no windows 1011 I don’t know.

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Jason Mefford: I don’t know I use MAC so I don’t know.

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Ewelina: Maybe there’s 11 yet you still operate on a windows five you know.

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Ewelina: Yet we expect the performance was 11 yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and that’s why I love hypnotherapy in general, I mean I do at least one self hypnosis audio a day.

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Jason Mefford: that’s just me right, because i’ve found a lot of the power of it, because you know, again, to me it feels like.

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Jason Mefford: What you’re able to do is go back and rewrite that code.

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Jason Mefford: yeah right so you’re you’re reprogramming yourself you’re changing your your beliefs and your identities, so that.

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Jason Mefford: In the future, right when those things happen again you’re going to decide respond in a different way.

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Jason Mefford: And then, how you’ve been programmed, you know for the previous part of your life so.

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Jason Mefford: Absolutely, you know i’m guessing that it that’s then probably how you kind of work through some of these things, I know you mentioned relationship, a couple times.

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Jason Mefford: You know so maybe just kind of walk through and explain to people, because they know to some people hypnotherapy is is like new they’ve never heard of it or there’s a lot of times, people are like is not the thing that they do at the county fair where they make me quack like a chicken.

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Jason Mefford: I don’t want to do that so so maybe just kind of help because because you’re a practitioner in there, so I mean you help people all the time, what is what is it really doing and kind of what is it what does it look like.

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Ewelina: So this various ways that we can explain this, and one way to explain this is a narrow focus of attention.

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Ewelina: And you get that focus well, maybe you meditate and maybe you’re watching a sunset at night, and you just saw absorbed in that view.

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Ewelina: And maybe you watch a film at night and you’re like oh my God, this is so interesting and you really not paying attention to anything away from this and that’s kind of a separate notice it’s a narrow focus of attention because, when your mind is relaxed it’s more open to suggestions.

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Ewelina: And people.

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Ewelina: wrongly believe that they never experienced happening before which is not true because, for the most part, all of us experience hypnosis every single day.

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Ewelina: Because if you watch a film at night, if you are interested in what you’re watching it’s a form of hypnosis, especially if you’re tired and you’re mine actually slows down the processing.

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Ewelina: And when you constantly watch something.

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Ewelina: And so it’s a repeated to you it’s another repeat again because that’s your recording or to a hypnotic recording when we relaxed is and it’s important to remember when we are relaxed, because the mind is more open so.

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Ewelina: The stress response doesn’t operate and the mind is more open and and your brain waves are slower than your normal and conscious mind as we speaking right now.

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Ewelina: And that’s I would say is probably the easiest way for someone who never had an understanding of hypnosis what is it’s just a narrow focus of attention so.

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Ewelina: Sometimes people can be hypnotized as well let’s say if they were in a car accident, because maybe you are driving along and you’re thinking oh my gosh i’ve got this debt to pay and that you.

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Ewelina: received to pay and oh my God they’re knocking at the door from the Bank and then boom you crashed, and in that instant moment you forgot all about your dad or your focus and attention went on like okay i’m in their car accident.

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Ewelina: And then you mind or so narrow focus on what was happening in this particular moment in a second, and please the association is OK car accident, we don’t like this i’m unhappy amongst us.

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Ewelina: And next time you driving in a car accident let’s say and you see a car might be speeding up behind you a bit too fast, because Maybe someone drove into you.

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Ewelina: Your body, ultimately, he gone to this like oh my God oh my God, because your mind goes like this is danger card speeding up too fast means car accident.

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Ewelina: So that’s other explanation as well.

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Ewelina: And, and that opens the door to the subconscious mind, so we are being exposed to hypnosis pretty much every day, one way or the other, which is done no that’s what it is.

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Jason Mefford: yeah and I like I like the way you described that because I don’t know how many people i’ve talked to you and they’re like oh I don’t want to be hypnotized and i’m like, do you not realize you’re hypnotizing yourself all day every day.

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Jason Mefford: You know, like you said, I mean when we’re when we have that that narrow focus of attention were absorbed in watching a movie.

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Jason Mefford: Were absorbed in listening to music or even like you said, sometimes homework driving you know, sometimes you’ll get in the car you start driving to wherever you’re going, and all of a sudden you’re there, and you don’t even remember how you got there.

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Jason Mefford: absolutely right that that those kind of things happen so we’re already going into that kind of state anyway during the day so there’s nothing to be afraid of from that because we do it all the time anyway right.

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Jason Mefford: yeah but, like you said once we get to that stage, it sounds like that’s the opportunity then for us to be able to reprogram so let’s let’s take your car example again right it’s make sure i’m understanding this right, so if if if somebody is has been in a car accident right.

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Jason Mefford: The fact that they were in a car accident is going to program certain things in their subconscious mind.

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Jason Mefford: So when they suspect danger, all of a sudden they’re afraid that any danger they see on the road oh my gosh i’m going to get in a car accident.

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Jason Mefford: Right yeah and so that anxiety that fear.

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Jason Mefford: And everything can well up in them right so again, it may not be a.

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Jason Mefford: car accident, but all of us feel this there’s different things that trigger us that raise that anxiety and fear into us.

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Ewelina: And it’s a protective mechanism is to protect us, so we don’t put ourselves in the same position where we got had before.

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Jason Mefford: But I guess with other than the question kind of is you know when people are feeling certain anxiety or fears welling up over and over again that they don’t want to experience this is one of those areas where hypnosis can really help isn’t it.

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Ewelina: Oh absolutely because, for the most part, most of the fears we get into and not really fears that impose any danger to us fear of judgment.

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Ewelina: All those fears are not rarely fears that are going to cause any damage to us yet those fears really hold us back.

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Ewelina: And, and is it evolution evolutionary process because he was back when we left in.

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Ewelina: Okay, so to speak, going in tribes that response was very much needed because, once we did our part and knowing okay i’ve left the village and there’s a tiger so that means if I leave at night.

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Ewelina: there’s a high chance disease need me for dinner so now i’ve got the Spartan okay dark night out to the village no good we’re not going there.

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Ewelina: But now we’re not living in those circumstances.

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Ewelina: You know, you can go out at night at night, no one is going to do anything to you, but those fears like being visible.

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Ewelina: But the fear is real to us when we feel it when we’ve got an anxious of response de stress for responses, a whole cocktail of emotions going through our body and you feel as real as night and day.

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Ewelina: For hypnosis can help to unravel that as.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and maybe maybe just kind of explain, you know, give us maybe a couple of examples of you know anonymized obviously but.

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Jason Mefford: You know, maybe have some things that that your clients have come to you for because, like you said, I mean people people out there listening, we all have these anxieties and fears that come up and they’re real to us.

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Jason Mefford: You know, like you said and and we can either choose to to keep feeling anxious and fearful, which is not very fun in my book book right.

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Jason Mefford: I rather get rid of those things as quick as possible but, but what are kind of some examples, because, again as people are listening to this and might be gone.

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Jason Mefford: I don’t know is is the thing that i’m dealing with is that something that hypnosis could help me with so So what are kind of some common things that people come to you to get to get help with.

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Ewelina: And so hypnosis can have we’re a variety of problems i’ve had a lady that came to me for my gun i’ve had people come from confidence sabotage issues fears all sorts of things and and age, again, it makes no difference because some people’s like I am all you know all dogs new tricks.

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Ewelina: And it’s not true because one of his clients and a lady was past certain age and she came to me because she struggled with confidence.

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Ewelina: So she’s lost her husband, about a year ago no friends, she had the social anxiety she really felt uncomfortable going out to meet people to strike a conversation and she’s like well I don’t really want to you know get married again, those are laughing halford husband.

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Ewelina: But I want to find a friend, I want to get some people in my life because I don’t want to spend the last few years wow i’m much she’s got left on my own.

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Ewelina: As Okay, so we started to work together and what it came down to it, when she was a little girl have Father never believed he always question tab so if she said something, just like okay perfect me.

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Ewelina: It was it shows she never was believed in the face value, she was like Okay, thank you, you know honey that’s good she always felt like.

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Ewelina: What she’s got to say is not good enough, she started to delve tests out that washes got to say is actually not valid because her dad never believe 10 always asked it to prove it to her.

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Ewelina: So she felt other uncomfortable in her own skin she didn’t trust herself she always did ask for permission to do something.

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Ewelina: And because that started when she was a better let it go at that age when we are so open and malleable we I think she says this like we are walking talking camera and microphone.

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Ewelina: That absorbs everything.

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Ewelina: Then, and have family was bullying her and she allowed that to happen, because she was like well.

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Ewelina: Well, they must know better than I do, because I can trust myself, because my dad taught me, does he made me to believe that I am not to be trusted.

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Ewelina: And she got in a relationship with someone again that agreed to the relationship has been was pretty much that you know.

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Ewelina: didn’t touch with how well and always question tash never really had an the friends and the relationship outside that are outside of marriage and having the last husband was the first husband that she heart and then again he was her hold world.

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Ewelina: She didn’t trust yourself so, so why would you want to speak to me, I have nothing to offer, and no one, and nothing interesting have nothing to say my opinion doesn’t matter.

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Ewelina: That was her.

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Ewelina: Reality that’s what she believed about her sound, but that made her feel very uncomfortable and miserable in her own skin.

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Ewelina: So when we started to work together and we unravel the that’s where the belief came from the social anxiety, the inability to see the she is enough and watch TV and interesting came from the fact that that was questioning her from the one.

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Ewelina: And now, oh my God she’s a social butterfly.

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Jason Mefford: There it is yeah.

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Jason Mefford: she’s all over the 10 raising.

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Ewelina: And, to be honest, she wanted this change so much.

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Ewelina: The she did everything that I asked her to do, she was going out to people, she was pushing herself past the comfort zone with something is Jim thousands all the time.

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Ewelina: If you’re going to get out of your comfort zone you never well she wasn’t going out to social events approaching people as much as that was making her feel uncomfortable because mind prefers what’s familiar and I was very unfamiliar concept to her.

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Ewelina: So, even when we ended our vault they believe Okay, the belief came from us and we worked on this she still needed to do the work on a conscious level.

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Ewelina: push have passed the conference and to prove to the mind is nothing to be scared of, and she did and i’m not kidding such a social butterfly and she’s such an interesting packs and so much to say yes, she didn’t see she didn’t see that.

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Jason Mefford: yeah well that’s why, even as you were describing her you know i’m thinking okay here’s here’s a lady that had three different marriages, you know later on in life she’s got to have some great stories of course.

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Jason Mefford: You got things that people would want to hear but, but I think thank, thank you for kind of sharing that because I think it it hopefully helps unpack this for a lot of the people that have been listening and kind of understand.

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Jason Mefford: It as you were talking, because you know I know i’m this way, most people are This way we want to fix our own problems right it’s like i’m big boy I can I can I can figure this out.

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Jason Mefford: But I think you know that example that you just shared she wanted to figure it out, but she couldn’t figure it out, because so much of the time.

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Jason Mefford: We can’t consciously figure it out, because it relates often to some experience we had that we don’t even remember.

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Jason Mefford: yeah or it relates to some experience that we would think has absolutely nothing to do with the challenge that we’re dealing with and that’s really where you know somebody as a hypnotherapist can come in and actually help to unpack that because.

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Jason Mefford: Like you said you were able to to help unpack figure out what it is i’m sure through some of the sessions reprogram some of that, but then also encourage her to consciously actually do some stuff too right you can’t just reprogram subconsciously and then just keep doing the same thing.

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Ewelina: Oh no because that’s you’re going in opposite directions that you still need to do the conscious work.

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Ewelina: And like you said if you’re trying to figure it out on your own quite often the ego is going to get in a way, and the ego aside don’t go there you don’t need to go there, you find where you are.

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Ewelina: You know if, despite the fact that you feel very uncomfortable and she did but uncomfortable and she couldn’t figure out in a figure this out by ourselves that’s why she came to me.

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Ewelina: And as you reprogram your subconscious patterns, he also need to do the conscious work which for high was going out to social event.

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Ewelina: You know, get to know people approach them, and it was slow and and you know one step at a time, you know she didn’t go to a massive event from day one, it was.

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Ewelina: A small gathering, with just a few people next thing was a bigger one Nixon was a different one every time she was pushing has a liberal liberal a little bit more, and eventually she was like what was I afraid off.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I think I think that’s that’s the realization and that’s the Aha that that we can come to once we actually go through the day and do the work right because again like you said but, but the fear and anxiety that we’re feeling is real to us.

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Ewelina: Oh yes.

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Jason Mefford: Right, but until until we push through it and do the work that we need to do we come on the other side, and it is like what was so afraid of.

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Ewelina: That the anxiety is not exactly the problem, this is just a coping mechanism.

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Ewelina: You know, because the problem wasn’t the fact that she was anxious, the problem was actually didn’t trust himself she doesn’t see herself, as someone who’s worthy to be.

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Ewelina: seen by other people i’m having any connections, because it’s like well who am I have nothing to say.

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Jason Mefford: yeah and that that phrase that you just said so many of the people that are listening.

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Jason Mefford: Probably are telling themselves that too right who am I what what do I have to share because we don’t really feel as confident as we want to or.

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Jason Mefford: need to we don’t love ourselves as much as as we should we talked a little bit about that earlier too right.

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Jason Mefford: And again it’s all because of kind of the programming and the experiences and things that we’ve lived through in our life and the problem is most of the time we don’t consciously know what’s holding us back.

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Ewelina: Can we repeat us started to ourselves, over and over making it more real to us and actually yes.

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Ewelina: So just just one of the store and consume and I store as and it’s just absolutely.

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Ewelina: fills my soul with joy, when I am able to help people to get passes because i’ve been in a similar problems, I felt stuck in my patterns and I was like okay this something that I need to change here about what what is it that I need to change.

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Jason Mefford: Well, it sounds like again because you, you were able to get unstuck in your patterns that’s one of the reasons why now you are helping people.

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Jason Mefford: do the same thing through hypnotherapy to be able to help as a tool.

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Ewelina: Oh absolutely and it’s I love it and enforcement and, to be honest, I always you know, I was someone who always been very passionate about helping people from very young age, because I was always against and social conditioning which stop programming.

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Ewelina: And I remember i’ve always been against certain ways I was expected to be and to love growing up when I did, and I was like know why.

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Ewelina: Either sign up for that and that’s probably why I love that so much because I was kind of fighting that programming from from very early age, not really realizing what i’m really doing because I didn’t know and over this.

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Ewelina: Well, I guess, my higher self did.

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Jason Mefford: yeah but consciously just didn’t realize it yeah.

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Ewelina: yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Good stuff good stuff well.

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Jason Mefford: Any any final final things to maybe leave I know we talked about a lot of good stuff today and things that.

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Jason Mefford: I always say usually at the beginning of each podcast you know, sometimes we kind of weave all the way around but there’s something in every episode that somebody needs to hear.

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Jason Mefford: And i’m sure that that was the case today, too, because of.

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Jason Mefford: of where we went the things that we talked about, and a lot of the things that you hear people talking about I hear people talking about it it’s a way to help them so.

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Jason Mefford: Any any kind of final thoughts to kind of wrap up you know because everybody’s got to get going, we got to get going to but i’d say here and talk to you all day if I could.

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Ewelina: Oh no I love those conversations and I think if you are on their hands, and you are some are like well i’m not really sure about this part of my life.

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Ewelina: And I really don’t know what to do about it go and reach out for help it doesn’t have to be me has plenty of time, so obviously I do want to see you but.

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Ewelina: I may not be your jam.

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Ewelina: You know, but if you feel like there’s something in your life that you really want to change and you’ve been trying and it’s not really getting anywhere go and reach out for help find a hypnotherapist that you resonate with.

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Ewelina: and see what it can do for you, because I.

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Jason Mefford: promise you.

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Ewelina: If you find a good hypnotherapist is going to change your life forever.

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Jason Mefford: yeah well i’ve seen that in my life you’ve seen it in your life like I said I know lots of other hypnotherapist i’ve heard stories after stories after stories it’s just.

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Jason Mefford: You know, again and and what’s The worst thing that can happen, this is what I always like to tell people is you know just just try it if you don’t like it you never have to do it again.

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Jason Mefford: But if what you’re doing isn’t working Why not try something new and just see if it might work for you, because that was kind of your story.

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Jason Mefford: To you know that you were looking for all these different things, but none of those seem to resonate with you but hypnotherapy did that’s that’s kind of why you came to that to that.

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Ewelina: yeah so you keep trying, because I kept trying those things, this is not really working for me and that’s better, but not really and I kept trying to realize that Okay, this is working for me I love it so yeah and even with a hypnotherapist find one that resonate.

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Ewelina: with you on an energetic level of it and go for your gut feeling don’t go for your head that one is gonna lie to you.

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Ewelina: got hitting go of your head how this.

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Ewelina: person makes you feel yeah and if you feel as good go for it.

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Jason Mefford: Good good good stuff so thank you for coming on and talking to me today I love doing this and you know if again if if people have been listening, if this is resonating with them and they’re like man that have Alina she’s amazing which I already know right that you are amazing.

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Ewelina: Thank you very much.

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Jason Mefford: How how’s the best way for people to reach out if they want to get Ahold of you how how’s the best way for people to get Ahold of you.

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Ewelina: So my business is called braving the being.

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Ewelina: So we www you know braving the being.com.

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Ewelina: You can find me on instagram as well.

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Ewelina: which probably is going to be hard because it’s my full name.

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Jason Mefford: Type out the whole thing Okay, but we’ll.

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Jason Mefford: be able to see it.

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Ewelina: yeah but probably the easiest way to email me where to smell them, what about whether we are breathing the beam.com and all you can find me by a second, which is my name, which is easy to find.

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Jason Mefford: Perfect perfect well again, thank you, everybody know it was nice to get to know you a little bit better as well and.

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Jason Mefford: keep doing what you’re doing people, people are out there, people need help and you’re one of those good people it’s helping other people so.

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Ewelina: Thank you very much, thank you for having me.

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Jason Mefford: Thank you.

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