E221 From Burn Out to on F.I.R.E with Angela Noelle

Whether you realize it or not, you may be more stressed out than you think. Due to this, you may be just one conversation or event away from dealing with the dreaded burnout.

In today’s episode we have Angela Noelle with us to help anyone get out of that burnout rut through teaching:

Financial Abundance,
Inner Peace,
Radiant Health,
& Energy Alignment.

So grab your flint and tinder and let’s catch FIRE!

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Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Alright, well, I have a really exciting episode for you today because we’re going to be talking about going from burnout to on fire here.

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Jason Mefford: Now I know you might be listening sitting to this and thinking hey Jason i’m not burned out why are you talking about this well.

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Jason Mefford: Whether you realize it or not, you might actually be more stressed out than you realize, because a lot of studies say that about 80% of people.

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Jason Mefford: Are stressed out and you might be just one bad conversation or one bad day away from getting pushed into burnout and so i’m excited today to have Angela Noel with me and we’re going to talk about how you can go from burnout to on fire so let’s roll that episode.

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Jason Mefford: All right, Angela welcome today, I know I always like to do this at the beginning, people can see that are on the video but it’s like I love to read my my hands together like.

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Angela Noelle: Oh, I love it I love it.

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Angela Noelle: In Chinese medicine, we say that’s like activating the Chi when you rub your hands together.

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Jason Mefford: So it was it’s like that reminds me like the old karate kid you know when Mr miyagi did that and then he, like rubbing his hands together and put it on yeah.

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Yes, yeah stuff.

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Jason Mefford: Well we’re going to talk about a little bit of healing kind of to, I guess, in a way today right because.

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Jason Mefford: i’m excited to have you on because you know you, you have this fire program right and you’re kind of helping people that have gone through burnout so so maybe you know again just.

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Jason Mefford: give a brief intro on kind of how how you help people because i’ve got lots of questions because, like I said a lot of people are way more stressed out than they realize.

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Jason Mefford: And I think there’s some simple things we can do so, we don’t end up.

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Jason Mefford: You know, going down in flames.

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Jason Mefford: Instead of getting on fire.

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Angela Noelle: Oh, my gosh yeah so a lot like you said Jason I think burnout is one of those things, a lot of people don’t realize that they are in, and they might have negative connotations, maybe they heard about somebody that was in burnout from a previous experience.

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Angela Noelle: And what most people don’t realize is that any form of stress is ultimately often going to lead to burnout and it can show up in the the mind, it can show up in the body, and it can show up in the spirit, so I am here to help.

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Angela Noelle: The driven business owner entrepreneur.

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Angela Noelle: Just end burnout so that they can have everything that they want in their life they want, they have the fight so fire is an acronym for financial abundance in our peace radiant health.

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Angela Noelle: and energy alignment, so that they can have more fun and freedom in their life and joy and happiness because let’s face it that’s what most people want don’t they.

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Jason Mefford: Well fun and freedom Those are two of my highest values, so I love I love that you actually brought those up, I actually my the company values are all Apps to I just like F words.

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Jason Mefford: Right okay.

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Jason Mefford: yeah for those that have been listening for a while right, you know.

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Jason Mefford: But, but I wanted to you know me because I want to jump in and talk about the fire acronym because I think it’s.

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Jason Mefford: it’s brilliant to and kind of just the basics, I understand, about it because I think what you’re doing are some pieces people normally don’t think about right and so.

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Jason Mefford: But I, but I wanted to before we kind of jump into that I wanted to kind of talk about maybe some warning signs and what this means is because, again, as I, as I said at the beginning, right.

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Jason Mefford: And you even just kind of said here, a lot of people are probably like well I i’m not in burnout that’s what other people do right i’m a strong person I would never get burned out right.

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Jason Mefford: But i’m thinking there’s probably some warning signs right to know if you’re getting closer right are there, certain warning signs that you typically see.

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Angela Noelle: yeah you know, especially for the over Doers and the overachievers of the world who feel like they’re checking all the boxes right they.

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Angela Noelle: i’m doing all my workouts and you know i’m doing really well at that and i’m going and i’m.

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Angela Noelle: Eating my salads every day and i’m doing all the right things like often box checkers I would say, are the I mean burnout I think is a.

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Angela Noelle: You know, is everywhere, but for the more subtle the people that are experiencing burnout and it’s more subtle and they don’t believe that they’re him or not, I would say it’s that.

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Angela Noelle: group of people, because they feel like they’re doing everything right and like kind of that perfectionist persona right.

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Angela Noelle: When what they’re actually doing is they are living their lives by a checklist.

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Angela Noelle: and not necessarily living in alignment to who they truly are basically what i’m saying is they’re living their lives, according to what they think they should be doing according to somebody else’s standards and not what truly makes them happy.

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Jason Mefford: And so i’m guessing those people to that are kind of the overdose is the box textures that perfectionist right.

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Jason Mefford: they’re going along thinking that everything is running on all cylinders right there they’re probably the ones that hit the wall harder.

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Jason Mefford: than other people, because it really creeps up onto them and they don’t realize how tired they actually are because that’s why.

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Jason Mefford: You know, thinking about it’s like okay people that are listening right well i’m not in burnout well do you wake up tired in the morning.

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Jason Mefford: Are you tired of all during the day right do you feel like you don’t have enough energy, you know all of these things that I think most people would say well.

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Jason Mefford: yeah I am kind of tired right and i’m and it’s not just like I didn’t get a good night’s sleep one night I haven’t gotten a good night’s sleep in a month or two months.

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Jason Mefford: or a year.

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Jason Mefford: right that those are probably again some of the things that can be creeping up on people and they don’t even realize it.

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Angela Noelle: And they don’t realize it because you know what we’re you know we live in a society where it’s just we’re expected to just do certain things and overdue and we don’t really even know most people don’t even realize that.

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Angela Noelle: There are options you don’t have to live that way and for people that are chronically tired we’ll just talk about that because that’s a you know, an epidemic, in my opinion is that so many people.

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Angela Noelle: are tired and when I had my acupuncture practice, these are the people that you know they thought okay well i’m tired that’s just the way that it is like everybody’s tired and then they come to the acupuncture clinic and they’re like you know what like I have this like random thing.

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Angela Noelle: You know that just popped up in my life this.

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Angela Noelle: You know, I was walking on the sidewalk and all of a sudden, you know my knee went out.

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Angela Noelle: You know so it’s like those they’re like I wasn’t really even doing anything and I hurt myself, and it could be, because they’re tired they weren’t paying attention.

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Angela Noelle: Or maybe they’re out of you know they didn’t stretch or they’re not taking care of their body, the way that their body wants to be taken care of so.

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Angela Noelle: there’s so many ways that burnout happens, but.

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Angela Noelle: For those that are I mean just talking from the standpoint of being tired, I think that.

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Angela Noelle: Most people are tired if you’re somebody that like you said you wake up tired, you need to drink coffee throughout the day just to get through your workday.

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Angela Noelle: And if you stop this is another thing that I hear often from my women clients if I sit down once during the day for more than 30 seconds I will fall asleep that is so so common if you’re feeling that chances are you’re in burnout.

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Jason Mefford: yeah well and it’s and we’re not talking about, because there is a thing called adrenal fatigue right which is your adrenal.

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Angela Noelle: fatigue adrenal fatigue out.

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Jason Mefford: renal fatigue, which is, which is really I mean that’s like to another level.

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Jason Mefford: Right at that point but but it’s it’s this this whole idea that again and it’s let me.

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Jason Mefford: Let me go back and say it this way is it okay to have burnout.

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Jason Mefford: Is it Okay, if I feel like i’m burning out if I feel like i’m tired all the time, is it okay for me to admit that.

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Angela Noelle: Is it okay to admit that that I actually have it.

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Angela Noelle: um well I think most people feel that by admitting that you have burnout or admitting just that you’re tired and you need to just you know take it down a few notches.

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Angela Noelle: That that must mean that you’re not good enough, you know you’re not a good enough parent you’re not a good enough business owner and you’re not a good enough.

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Angela Noelle: wife husband partner daughter son, and you know that I think that just comes from you know years and years of living in a culture where.

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Angela Noelle: As we were discussing earlier Jason just being in a masculine ised culture where overwork Overdoing all that is in productivity.

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Angela Noelle: is valued and to actually say hey you know I need to take a break, then there’s often this feeling like i’m letting somebody down and then we’re going into people pleasing and all the other things that come from there, so.

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Angela Noelle: The thing is.

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Angela Noelle: Our normal state is to be thriving is to be healthy, is to be happy to feel good and most people don’t think that’s even possible because it’s not something that’s like been infused into our culture.

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Angela Noelle: We just think this is the norm and by us saying that were burned out, we must not be, we must not be normal there’s something wrong with us.

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Jason Mefford: Because that’s what that’s where I was kind of trying to go with this, because I feel like it’s it’s in this way, but also so many.

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Jason Mefford: Other parts of our life is that we feel like we can’t admit if any of these things are happening because you know it must mean that there’s something wrong with me.

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Jason Mefford: When there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you look around you if 10 people around you seven or eight of them are feeling exactly the same way, you are.

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Jason Mefford: But they’re just afraid to admit it, just like you’re afraid to admit it right, I mean that’s that’s why again, especially here in the US, we have a mental.

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Jason Mefford: health crisis but nobody’s talking about it right and and burnout and some of these other things, all kind of go with that and.

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Jason Mefford: You know i’m guessing to like the clients that you work with right just saying it or admitting it to yourself and realizing it’s okay has to release a lot of the tension that goes along with it.

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Angela Noelle: Right yeah yeah absolutely just by saying it out loud or telling a confidant I mean you know that’s why we, you know we find refuge and talking to each other right that’s why.

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Angela Noelle: Kobe was such a was so hard for so many people is that lack of connection when we can connect with other people and tell them how we are truly feeling that is a huge weight off our shoulders and.

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Angela Noelle: I you know going to what you were saying about, we have a mental health problem.

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Angela Noelle: yeah if you’re if you know what we often believe we need to do as a culture is if we’re feeling say we’re feeling we were getting migraines as a result of button burnout because that’s often a sign of burnout right or back pain.

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Angela Noelle: A lot of people tend to go right to their their medical doctor which i’m all for Western medicine emergency medicine, we need that but oftentimes doctors will just say something like well.

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Angela Noelle: you’re stressed like and they’ll they’ll work within their scope of practice and how they were trading nothing against them.

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Angela Noelle: And they’ll either prescribe something or they’ll say, well, this is just something you know if you develop a condition from this stress.

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Angela Noelle: high blood pressure, heart disease Well, this is just something that you have to deal with, for the rest of your life.

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Angela Noelle: And this is what i’m going to prescribe to I think doctors are getting a little bit better about that, but that’s been the standard for.

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Angela Noelle: Care so really burned out people are not getting the attention that they actually need when they actually need it, which is before it actually becomes a big problem.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and it’s not you know again it’s not.

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Jason Mefford: That you’re weak he it’s just you know, sometimes again it’s just like a battery and any electronic device right if you run it long enough without recharging it.

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Jason Mefford: Eventually it’s going to run out right and and again a lot of times that frenetic nature that we tend to be and as.

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Jason Mefford: You know, over performing Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo I got to be the best mother in the world, the best Father in the world, you know.

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Jason Mefford: Whatever it happens to be that we tend to overextend ourselves really to you know have us kind of crash and burn a little bit right which is.

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Jason Mefford: Which is what you’re helping people with, and so you know I know you know you work with a lot of female entrepreneurs, but what we’re going to talk about is really relevant for anybody.

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Jason Mefford: Right and that’s one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on here because.

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Jason Mefford: So so let’s talk a little bit about the fire process that you have kind of what each of these are because, like I said is you kind of told me what they were I was like.

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Jason Mefford: Most people don’t have that or haven’t thought about that thing so let’s let’s go through and kind of talk about each one of them and.

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Jason Mefford: yeah what it what it.

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Jason Mefford: You know how you help people to get away from the burnout and instead be on fire yeah.

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Angela Noelle: I said it burned out from from the fire actually.

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Jason Mefford: you’re on fire, the fire, you are, that you are the actual fire and I want everybody listening to know that it is possible for each and every one.

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Angela Noelle: Of you out there who you’re if you’re going through a hard time that it is possible to be on fire, and it is possible to thrive, so my unique method is called reclaim your fire.

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Angela Noelle: it’s also the name of my podcast and what I do is so I meant my training is originally in Chinese medicine, I had a practice in Boston for.

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Angela Noelle: 1211 years and I closed it just last year in 2020 so what the idea is that our most important asset is our health, our physical body, so I work with clients oftentimes they reach out to me when they’re having.

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Angela Noelle: A physical condition manifest from burnout stress not having boundaries, you know it goes on there’s so many ways that burnout happens.

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Angela Noelle: And so we work really closely on getting their health in check by forming that foundation, so the are and fire is radiant health.

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Angela Noelle: So when you think about a radiantly healthy person, you know they glow right they have they’re feeling on top of the world they’re waking up like you said they’re feeling not tired they’re feeling energetic.

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Jason Mefford: And like I got another day above ground i’m so excited i’m happy to be alive right.

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Angela Noelle: Yes, they’re grateful I work with gratitude a lot because really it’s about raising our vibration right and.

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Angela Noelle: and implementing habits that will support these things, so the next way is so I stands for inner peace, and I know i’m jumping around not going in order but.

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Angela Noelle: I is inner peace so once we kind of you know we’re always working on the foundation of getting the body physical body in check.

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Angela Noelle: And then i’m bringing in the other aspects of the fire so inner peace like what is it that you need to do, or who do you need to be to have inner peace.

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Angela Noelle: And it may just be a matter of looking at your to do list or looking at your day to day life and seeing what is in there.

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Angela Noelle: That is not aligning with inner peace, and it could be just something really simple like Oh, you know and so so and so text me.

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Angela Noelle: I don’t need to respond to them right away, I can maybe respond to them later or over the weekend or at a time that’s convenient for you, so what whatever habits are involved, I talk about habits, a lot to bring in inner peace.

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Angela Noelle: And then, for the essence fires financial freedom or financial abundance, because most people you know, money is an interesting thing and i’ve been through this myself where.

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Angela Noelle: Most people don’t talk about money or it’s shameful to talk about money or it’s embarrassing or you don’t talk about how much you make it’s how I grew up.

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Angela Noelle: But really money is just energy and money is a reflection of who we are and that’s all it is so if you’re listening to this and you’re not in the financial situation or place that you want to be.

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Angela Noelle: This is an invitation to really look at where, am I in my health where, am I in my inner peace and, finally, with.

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Angela Noelle: He is energy alignment and energy is so so so so important, and I don’t mean to brush over the money piece, but bringing it all together in the fire is when.

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Angela Noelle: The energy alignment is about tapping into you know what works best for my energy not you know, yes, energy, how we think of it we all want more energy.

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Angela Noelle: Most of us don’t feel like they have we have enough energy, but also what works best for my individual energy system and I talk in that category, about the balance of yin and Yang and.

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Angela Noelle: Also, the divine masculine and feminine energies.

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Angela Noelle: Which are you know energy in its purest form, we need to have a balance in Chinese medicine, we talked about this, you know, and you know the the black and white tae JI symbol.

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Angela Noelle: That represents again and young and the balance in the entire universe right and we’re just microcosms of the entire universe.

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Angela Noelle: So when we’re not in balance, you know whether we’re too much in the masculine or which is Overdoing.

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Angela Noelle: Over committing people pleasing doing all the things of being in a very busy culture, then we’re going to start to notice our feminine.

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Angela Noelle: become more and more wounded right our intuition gets cut off for women who are cycling, maybe your period starts to.

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Angela Noelle: You start noticing imbalances, or you develop endometriosis or infertility I dealt with that so much in my acupuncture practice so.

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Angela Noelle: it’s a very holistic approach to working with clients where it’s not just about the physical body, because that’s why I left clinical work.

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Angela Noelle: Was I just felt like it was only working with people’s physical health and it’s not just about physical health, because if we don’t have the other pieces of the fire, then we don’t really have physical health or.

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Angela Noelle: Those physical conditions are going to keep coming back, which is what I saw all the time in the practice.

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Jason Mefford: yeah cuz you’re just you’re just ban dating the symptom instead of actually getting rid of the root cause right.

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Jason Mefford: yeah well and what I want to kind of do than to is is just because again for some people listening, some of these concepts might be like holy crap i’ve never heard of that before well let’s just.

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Jason Mefford: Bear with this right let’s let’s talk a little bit about this, because I think sometimes there’s some some misconceptions as well right and so.

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Jason Mefford: You know the yin and Yang masculine feminine that is not male female right okay it’s it’s like you kind of talked about the masculine energy is more the doing the overthinking the you know that kind of stuff where the the feminine How would you describe that I guess different.

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Angela Noelle: yeah so um so for the masculine I like to think of the sun, you know when i’m describing the sun and daylight and strong energy, you know people during the day are often like bustling around right.

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Angela Noelle: Whereas the feminine is more the moon it’s more inward it’s more nighttime it’s more quiet it’s the feminine energy is about getting in touch with your inner wisdom so going within.

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Angela Noelle: And tapping into your intuition and what most people don’t realize, is that you know because we’ve been living in this culture where like we were talking in a previous conversation Jason of what was the control and.

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Jason Mefford: command and control.

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Angela Noelle: command and control right we’re used to being.

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Angela Noelle: told what to do and how to think and how to live our lives we’re used to being taking in information from the external.

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Angela Noelle: to inform how we make decisions and what school we go to and and what book we’re going to read and who we marry, etc, etc, etc.

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Angela Noelle: But what most people don’t know is that all of that knowledge that aligns with who we truly are when we were born, we incarnated on this planet.

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Angela Noelle: that’s our truest nature, and I might be going a little out there, but what i’m saying is that we all have that knowledge to make the decisions that are going to make us happy.

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Angela Noelle: So that we’re not in constant burnout and fatigue because we’re always.

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Angela Noelle: doing what we feel other people or other organizations want from us.

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Jason Mefford: Once I really kind of from the energy alignment because I wanted to try to maybe give a couple of examples for people to maybe where this is kind of like new to them right and again it’s it’s.

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Jason Mefford: it’s about balance okay and anytime that we get out of balance things start not going our way right so again it has nothing to do with whether you’re male or female.

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Jason Mefford: Right, think about the balance in your life let’s say right, and so I love the example of art and science Okay, so if we if we take art and science, we could say.

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Jason Mefford: Well, science is kind of like the masculine energy right the numbers, the logic, the things like that right art is the beauty of the flowing the whatever right.

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Jason Mefford: So if we if we take this as an example, if i’m a if i’m a scientist, but all I do is science science science science science science science science science science right.

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Jason Mefford: i’m probably not going to be a very good scientists you got to have some art with the science Okay, in fact, I was just you know hearing today, and this is true, you you look at some of the greatest scientists of all time they were also great artists.

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Jason Mefford: Leonardo da Vinci, is one of those people even Albert Einstein.

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Jason Mefford: fabulous scientists, but the man played violin like nobody’s business right he he had that balance in his life that’s what we all need that’s some of the energy alignment right.

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Jason Mefford: Another one another simple one, even can be is like you said, where it’s.

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Jason Mefford: it’s what works for you right so some people, one of the people on my team he didn’t like to get up until 11 or 12 each day great.

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Jason Mefford: Right, so he works from like 12 until I don’t know whenever he kind of works throughout the day and goes to bed at like midnight or two in the morning.

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Jason Mefford: that’s what works for him right that balances his energy or his circadian rhythm right doesn’t work for me right at 10 1030 i’m a i’m a pumpkin i’m in bed.

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Jason Mefford: So that’s kind of what we’re talking about to from an energy perspective as well right to try to help.

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Jason Mefford: make some analogies for people that are like Well, this is the first time i’ve heard about it so it’s think about in your life, do you feel unbalanced in certain ways, maybe here’s an opportunity for you to rebalance some of that aren’t you.

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Angela Noelle: yeah yeah and I like how you explained it really simply it’s you know how are you this is an opportunity to really look at yourself and look at your life and and discover, you know how are you are, you really feeling like Jason how are you really feeling, how do you feel in your body.

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Angela Noelle: And, most people don’t really even know how to answer that question, most people don’t even know who they are, and it really just comes down, I think, like you said just keeping it super super stupid simple like not like you’re stupid, but like ridiculously simple, so that people can really.

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Angela Noelle: start to tune into this way of being because when you start to really connect with yourself and connect with how you’re feeling and know.

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Angela Noelle: me most people know wouldn’t you agree, like something doesn’t feel right right they go to the wall, they go to their job and it’s like oh like this doesn’t feel good you know, most people know.

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Angela Noelle: At least know when they feel good when they feel bad and then you just kind of build on that over time and.

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Angela Noelle: I think what I would like to impart is that it just you know, to give yourself grace and space to discover this about yourself it’s not something that’s going to happen, and you know, a two hour class like it’s a lifetime of exploration yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I wanted to go back and talk a little bit about some of these other ones, because the financial the F is here’s one two right where.

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Jason Mefford: You know, and again it’s it’s it’s one of those where I can’t remember the numbers but it’s it’s too too big, of a number 70 or 80% of people in the US are living paycheck to paycheck.

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Jason Mefford: yeah and and we also know that you know, one of the biggest stressors in marriages, one of the biggest reasons for divorce is finance.

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Jason Mefford: Finances money, money, money, money right, and so you know I remember being taught very early by my by my parents and by other.

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Jason Mefford: kind of family mentors that I knew who were successful right and he is they, one of the guys I used to work for he said it doesn’t matter how much you make it matters, how much you spend.

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Jason Mefford: And so, his point always being right he was a very good person who saved some of his money to be able to be you know financially free in in.

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Jason Mefford: yeah because, because what i’ve what i’ve seen and what I tell a lot of.

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Jason Mefford: People sometimes is people think well I can’t save any money or I can’t do anything, or I can’t you know BA BA BA BA BA right, so they feel all that pressure, financially and something as simple as having one month or three months worth of savings.

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Jason Mefford: Has like this calming effect on people who have been used to their whole life just never having money in the Bank, I was just talking to somebody actually a while ago.

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Jason Mefford: And I think they’ve got three or $4,000 in their savings account now it’s the most this person has ever had in their savings account in their life.

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Jason Mefford: How do you think that makes them feel right.

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Jason Mefford: Much different much different right because all that anxiety and the stress and the everything else and yeah it’s not a great amount of money, but for this person.

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Jason Mefford: it’s huge right, and so I know the financial abundance goes much further than that, but was trying to think of.

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Jason Mefford: You know kind of a simple thing I don’t know if you if you share other things, with people about how does that pillar kind of work to help us southern we we can be on fire, we can feel like we’re powerful instead of feeling like we’re burned out or her small.

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Angela Noelle: yeah i’m so glad that we’re picking this apart jason’s and first of all I just disclaimer I don’t consider i’m i’m not a money.

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Angela Noelle: Expert as far as like financial planning my angle with financial abundance is the idea that when you can get your you know your ducks in a row right So those are the components of the fire.

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Angela Noelle: And you can get your health and check when you align with who you are when you’re creating and doing the things that you love when you truly learn how to.

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Angela Noelle: Practice self care that is more than just going to the nail salon and going to the massage but it’s really a matter of really getting in tune with what you’re saying yes to and what you’re saying no to and you lead from your heart and not your head.

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Angela Noelle: The money is going to just come.

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Angela Noelle: So that is, that is how I work with people I have single handedly i’ve seen it happen with my my clients with myself with people, my friends.

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Angela Noelle: And I know it sounds it might sound like magic or kind of whoo whoo there are some really good books out there that talk about this subject, just.

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Angela Noelle: Money is just a tool it’s just energy and it’s a reflection of who we are, internally and if we’re always hating on ourselves, or even you know you were talking about the people that.

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Angela Noelle: Just knew now have three or $4,000 in their bank account, where the biz before they did not they never had that kind of savings, what was the conversation that they were having every single day.

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Angela Noelle: In themselves within themselves or with their spouse or whoever they’re sharing their life with about money was it, you know, is it was it coming from a place of possibility or was it coming from a place of fear and.

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Angela Noelle: And you know, this translates into all aspects of our life what we think about expands right so some people who, you may have listened to, or watch the secret right like the law of attraction what we.

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Angela Noelle: how we go about our day every single thought every single thought that we think on a daily basis.

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Angela Noelle: is going out there and it’s being either felt by somebody so how many times have you been out, and you know you you thought of a person, and then you run into them or they text or they call you or how many times have you worried about something happening and it actually happened.

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Angela Noelle: Because you’re ruminating and you’re thinking about it well, you can actually use that brain of yours, you know that big brain in our heads and choose.

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Angela Noelle: your thoughts or at least become awake starts with awareness and then with awareness becomes choice right i’m choosing a new thought and over time it’s really astounding at what happens with people’s finances.

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Jason Mefford: Well it’s it’s interesting because again kind of these four areas right financial kind of the inner inner peace, the the health aspect and then just kind of the alignment energy and the alignment of what you’re doing right is that.

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Jason Mefford: When any one of these is off kilter we’re out of balance right so here, instead of just talking about yin and Yang as to right we’re talking kind of about four.

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Jason Mefford: Things you know and so again, you know, think about this, how hard, is it to have inner peace if you’re fearful and worried all the time about money that’s going to be where you’re focusing your attention.

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Jason Mefford: yeah and it’s going to be hard for you to have that inner peace right if there’s something wrong with your health.

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Jason Mefford: How hard, is it going to be for you to maybe you can’t go to work or you’re have to put your business on hold, so your health affects your finances.

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Jason Mefford: And is that going to affect your inner peace probably know as well right it’s like we have all these different little moving pieces, but as as as we’re we’re kind of balancing.

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Jason Mefford: and setting into it that way that’s how we’re kind of creating this I don’t know life lifeboat if you will.

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Jason Mefford: You know, to where we were protected we’re protected if something happens because, if I feel that inner peace doesn’t matter what’s going on around me.

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Jason Mefford: I can go inside and I can feel the peace, even if it’s chaotic around me right.

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Jason Mefford: yeah even if all hell goes loose financially right if if if things are okay in that area there’s nothing to be afraid of.

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Jason Mefford: And like you said really from a financial abundance perspective there’s never ever anything to be afraid of because money always comes.

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Jason Mefford: No matter how much money or how little money i’ve ever had in my life there’s always been more and there’s always been enough and more than I need at any given time.

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Angela Noelle: You know, and when I just wanted to your point Jason about you know there’s always money, no matter how much or how little one activity one tip that I heard from.

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Angela Noelle: A coach that I was at a talk once and she talked about this, she said, if you find a penny.

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Angela Noelle: On the sidewalk you pick that penny up and you celebrate that penny like you just picked up.

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Angela Noelle: Because it’s still money it’s the energetic and how many people out there i’m guilty of this have thrown pennies away like oh it’s just a penny.

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Angela Noelle: What you’re saying is that you don’t appreciate money and money needs to be respected, just like anything that you want more of.

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Angela Noelle: You know, like if you, if you like, plants right if you if you take care of plants in your garden.

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Angela Noelle: Are you going to allow your garden to just so you’re not going to water it and read it, or if you have house plants so you’re just going to you know, put it in a corner and the dark and just leave it, I mean I know some people do that.

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Angela Noelle: know you want to you want to tend to your garden and take care of your plants and and and nurture your plants and that you could talk about your children or you know anything that’s important to you so it’s the same thing goes for money is treating it with respect.

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Jason Mefford: And it’s kind of you know as again as we’re as we’re talking about it, these these four areas that you talk about because.

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Jason Mefford: How much of the time, do we not really respect, for example, or health.

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Jason Mefford: yeah or something else right is is that that’s where the the gratitude.

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Jason Mefford: And the respect for that stuff really comes in right, I mean if if you’re feeling out of balance it’s probably because there’s some part of your life that you’re not as grateful for or focusing attention on right so again, we can look we’ll just use extremes right.

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Jason Mefford: We can do that on a podcast but you know if you’re just if you just love on your plants, and you have a house, full of plants that are.

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Jason Mefford: You know, wonderful, but you totally neglect and forget, you have kids and you forget to feed them okay.

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Jason Mefford: Or you know, whatever right, I mean if you’re neglecting one part of your life.

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Jason Mefford: Then you’re not really going to be in that balance as well right and and really to have that power to to get up to be excited to be alive every day all of those things have to kind of be playing.

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Angela Noelle: Absolutely and and also let’s face it we’re human beings right and, and this is not an invitation to go into perfectionism right because sometimes we forget I forget to water my water Wednesday is my day to water my plants.

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Angela Noelle: You know it’s a fine line between setting goals right.

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Angela Noelle: You know forgiving yourself if you don’t get it right, the first time, and also, knowing that tomorrow, or even the next minute of your life is a new beginning.

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Angela Noelle: So it’s a matter really of like you said, the gratitude because fearing gratitude can exist in the same space and.

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Angela Noelle: And being gentle learning baby steps to be gentle with yourself if you make a mistake and forget to water your plants or feed your children.

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Jason Mefford: yeah well in this as always we ended up talking about a lot of different things and there’s layers in this episode so.

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Jason Mefford: This is one of those episodes you might want to listen to more than one time because you’re probably going to get something out of it different the next time right.

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Jason Mefford: But you know Angela thanks thanks for coming on I mean maybe just to kind of you know, because we started off kind of talking a little bit about burnout, you know as well, and the fact that a lot of people.

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Jason Mefford: are more tired than they need to be you know, and this ends up sometimes affecting all these other aspects of our life that we’ve been talking about so.

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Jason Mefford: So I know we’ve talked about a lot of things that people can do, but again, maybe just kind of one or two kind of quick takeaways for people here at the end it’s like.

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Jason Mefford: You know, so that you don’t end up going down that route, what are one or two simple things you can do today, or this week to at least start moving yourself in the right direction right because that’s that’s that’s the whole idea is we’re as long as you’re moving in the right way.

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Jason Mefford: that’s all we gotta do right just every day, keep moving a little bit the right way, that we want to go.

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Angela Noelle: And you know you’ll be surprised that even just taking little steps in that direction.

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Angela Noelle: Will can make a big impact, over time, so you know, the first thing we talked about gratitude, I think about with it man’s search for meaning by Viktor frankl that.

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Angela Noelle: boom, where he talks about you know me his he was in hell, you know, or what most people would interpret as hell and.

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Angela Noelle: He expressed gratitude for what he had so expressing gratitude, even if it’s you know you don’t have what you want, right now, for what you have.

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Angela Noelle: is already enough and I think starting there because, in the presence of gratitude there’s no fear, so that and I think also just the second one would be.

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Angela Noelle: To practice grace with yourself is just to give yourself plenty of space and grace to be a human being, because.

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Angela Noelle: Not nobody’s perfect, but at the same time we’re perfectly imperfect and we’re all here to I believe show up and be who we truly are and when we’re who we truly are then we can actually start to make an impact in this world yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, said, and you know I know a lot of people that are.

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Jason Mefford: And I love that last point that have some grace with yourself right is that there’s there’s no reason to beat ourselves up or to say things to ourself.

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Jason Mefford: that we would never say to another person it’s something i’m still working on every single day right because, again, the way you know really hit me when I.

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Jason Mefford: heard from several different places, but you know, would you talk to someone that you love the way you talk to yourself.

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Jason Mefford: And if the answer is no, then you better stop it.

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Jason Mefford: Right it’s time to stop it it’s time to start having some grace with yourself and realize that you know, like I said I mean the journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step.

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Jason Mefford: And as long as we’re making you know we’re we’re we’re moving that way to just have grace with yourself and that’s going to bring more of that inner peace that we’re all really wanting anyway.

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Angela Noelle: yeah absolutely absolutely.

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Jason Mefford: So Angela Thank you, thank you, thank you how’s how’s the best way for people to be able to reach out to you.

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Angela Noelle: um so I have an instagram account it’s I am dot Angela Noel so you can find me there, I have a podcast called reclaim your fire and then I also have a website Angela Noel international.com okay.

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Jason Mefford: international.com all right we’ll put all that in there, and thank you, my friend for coming on today.

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Jason Mefford: Love I love these kinds of conversations, because we.

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Jason Mefford: We never know where it’s going to go, but I just love having the conversations and let it go where it needs to because, since you’re still listening right you got something out of this podcast today.

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Jason Mefford: This discussion that we have that you didn’t even realize, you might have needed to know so you know main idea listen to Angela take some of these steps just practice with some gratitude now.

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Jason Mefford: Having a little bit more grace with yourself and and just keep plugging forward so that you can be.

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Jason Mefford: on fire.

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Jason Mefford: Because that’s what we all want to be right it’s life’s a lot more fun when we’re doing that, when we’re having fun and when the energy level is up.

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Jason Mefford: Alright, thanks again my friend.

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Angela Noelle: Thank you Jason Thank you so much wonderful discussion.

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