Fire and Earth Podcast

Our 24/7, on-demand, technology-infused lifestyles has blurred the lines between work and home life. Many people feel burned out, overwhelmed, and out of control in life/work balance.

You have so much potential. Don't let stress and limiting beliefs get in the way of living your best life.

The Fire & Earth Podcast gives you practical advice and keys to unlocking your potential in life and business, hosted by Dr. Kathy Gruver and Jason Mefford. Real, raw and unscripted.

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E45 Self Confidence through Self Defense with Terri Coffee McDuffie


Fear is a big thing holding people back from achieving their full potential. We can overcome fear when we acquire and develop empowering tools, live large and feel powerful. When fear relates to your physical safety it's time to learn some self defense.

In this episode we are joined by Teri Coffee McDuffie from Santa Barbara Womens Defense ( and the Coastal Self Defense Academy to discuss how you can improve your self confidence by learning and practicing self defense techniques. Teri provides us with some practical, real-world ways to be more aware, large and in-charge.

Teri has developed a Self Defense program for women of all ages who may not have had the opportunity or time to learn a full Martial Arts curriculum, but needed ways to strengthen their mental and physical strengths and abilities.

You can access the book referenced in the episode "The Gift of Fear: And Other Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence" by Gavin de Becker here:

#fireandearthpodcast #selfdefense #confidence

E44 Using Self-Talk and Gratitude to Move You Forward

Does it annoy you when you are trying to stay positive and someone else starts bringing you down with their negativity? What if that other person is actually yourself? We are often our own worst critic.

In this episode we discuss how you can use self-talk and gratitude practices to encourage yourself and keep things in perspective. When we look back on what we have accomplished, feel and express gratitude we can get back in the ring and keep moving forward.


E43 Improving the Quality of the Candidate Experience with Kevin Grossman

At one time or another we have all been looking for a new job, which means the emotional roller coaster of submitting job applications, resumes, and going through the interview process. This can be a very stressful time for applicants, but also can have a big brand impact on the organizations that are hiring if they don't provide a good experience.

In this episode we discuss how to improve the quality of the candidate experience ... what organizations can do to improve the process, and what candidates can do to keep the hiring process in perspective and remain positive during the roller coaster of finding your next job.

We are joined by Kevin Grossman, the President of The Talent Board, a non-profit organization focused on the elevation and promotion of a quality candidate experience.

#fireandearthpodcast #recruiting #jobs

E42 Navigating the Workplace Environment and Conflicts with Ragan Myers

We've all experienced some conflict in our work environments. Instead of letting the conflict zap us of our energy and lead us down a rabbit hole when we take things personally, it's best to try a few of the tips from this episode.

We are joined by Ragan Myers, Tourism & Events Coordinator for the city of Long Beach, Washington (big shout out to Long Beach ... WA & CA) to discuss some practical things we can all do to reduce conflict and help us keep a positive attitude when we experience challenging times, and challenging people.



E41 Cognitive Flexibility and Critical Thinking Helps Reduce Anxiety with Dr. Christina Donaldson

Much of the stress people experience is caused by the thoughts and stories we tell ourselves ... which are usually un-founded. Taking a pause to think critically, to really assess our situation, and using cognitive flexibility will reduce our anxiety.

Not sure what cognitive flexibility is and how to develop it? Check out the episode.

We are joined by Dr. Christina Donaldson, a psychologist and adjunct professor at Antioch University.

#fireandearthpodcast #anxiety #criticalthinking


E40 How to Turn Your Pain into Your Gain with Peter Bedard

We are joined again by our good friend Peter Bedard to discuss how we can turn our pain into our gain. We talk about empathy, The Law of Knowing, and how to realize we are whole, perfect and complete and don't need to be "fixed." This episode is full of "aha" moments and epiphanies, so check it out and see how you can start your healing today and turn your pain into your gain.

You can learn more about Peter at: and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes.

Peter's newest book "How to Turn Your Pain into Your Gain" is set to release later this year. This is a practical book to help you take action now. He is currently giving away a PDF version of his new book for FREE on his website: Sign up for his newsletter and get a PDF copy of this newest book before it's published later this fall.

#fireandearthpodcast #healing #pain


E39 Generous Acts of Selfishness to Accelerate your Dreams with Denise Soler Cox

We discuss how staying stuck in the set of rules we believe (human, cultural, family, etc...) can hold us back from achieving our dreams with award-winning film maker Denise Soler Cox. Often we feel stuck between two worlds that have competing expectations. If we do what we feel compelled and what's in our best interest, are we betraying our family? Listen in to learn the answer, which just may surprise you, but will let you know you are not alone in how you feel.

What the group you belong to may see as selfish, is most often a generous act of selfishness that can literally have a positive impact millions of people. When we understand our magnificent obsession and listen to our heart more than our mind, we really can unlock our dreams and change the world.

Watch Denise's documentary film "Being Enye" at To learn more about the Enye Dream Accelerator program Denise runs to help you find and accelerate your dreams, visit:


E38 How to Use the Love Languages for Self Care

The 5 Love Language is a concept discussed in a book by Gary Chapman that can be use to understand and provide love to others with whom you have a relationship. Understanding your love language preferences, and those of others allows you the option of showing love in the way the other person most appreciates.

But can you use the 5 love languages: 1. physical touch, 2. words of affirmation, 3. quality time, 4. receiving gifts, and 5. acts of service for self care. Absolutely and we explain how. When you are feeling a little blue, anxious, or just need to feel a little love, you can apply these techniques by yourself to soothe and reduce stress.

For more detail about the 5 love languages, check out Gary's book.

The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts, by Gary Chapman


E37 How to Use Affirmations More Effectively

You've probably heard about affirmations. Heck, some of you have even tried them, but may not think they work since you may have fallen into some common traps.

In this episode we will discuss some common mistakes people make when writing and saying affirmations, so you can improve your effectiveness and change your life. We discuss the length of time, frequency, and method for doing affirmations that will increase their effectiveness and truly impact and change your life.


E36 Managing Emotions and Having Compassion for Yourself

As humans, we are emotional beings. That means we always need to be aware of the emotions we are feeling and learn how to manage them intelligently. Sometimes "the show must go on" and we have to compartmentalize in the short-term, but eventually we have to deal with our emotions. If we don't deal with our emotions it will eventually show up negatively in our business and personal life.

In this episode we explain how to push through the pain and have compassion for yourself. We actually get personal and explain how we have gone through managing some tough emotions and how you can too.


E35 Healing Ourselves to Become Whole, Perfect and Complete with Peter Bedard

Our guest this week, Peter Bedard knows a thing or two about healing. In fact, Peter has healed himself of everything from chronic anxiety to arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, depression, sciatica, and he's died before and come back to a body wracked in pain, a mind trapped in fear, and a spirit broken. Peter has developed a tried and true process for creating your own path to wellness ... Convergence Healing ... which he shares on this episode.

We all have pain (physical, emotional, etc...) that needs healing and here are practical steps for how you can start your healing process.

You can learn more about Peter at: and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes.


E34 Unlocking the Potential of Podcasts in Your Business with Brad Dalius

Podcasts are one way of getting yourself and your message out into the world. You can do that to fuel a hobby, special interests, or even run your business. In fact, podcasts are on target to soon be a $1 billion industry.

We are joined by Brad Dalius, a fellow podcaster with years in terrestrial radio and podcast experience, who discusses how you can start a podcast for yourself or your business ... the things to be successful and the mistakes to avoid.

You can listen to Brad's podcast "Motivators in Motion " at and be sure to check out the episode where he interviews Kathy Gruver 🙂


E33 Dealing with Negative People in Our Life

It's just a fact of life that we will encounter negative people. Inevitably as we try to stay positive and keep our energy levels up, somebody comes along to suck out our energy with their negativity.

Fear not. In this episode we discuss some practical ways to deal with negative people in our lives. The answers will surprise you.


E32: The Breakfast of Champions is Your Morning Routine

The key to getting every day started off right is having a good morning routine. If you are showing up for work already exhausted before the day even starts, perhaps it's time to think about incorporating a positive morning routine to get you through the day feeling relaxed and confident. In this episode we share our morning routines and give you some practical advice for how you can develop and practice your own morning routine that'll make you a champion.


E31: Getting Clarity on Your Top Values

In several episodes we've referenced values and figured it was about time to show you an exercise for how to determine your top values. Until you are in alignment with your values in what you think, feel and do, you will continue to feel exhausted and unproductive. Focusing on on three top values helps you put everything in perspective and improves your communications, productivity, and feeling of accomplishment.

Here's the link to download the values exercise cards so you can complete the exercise yourself. It will change your perspective and change your life.


E30: The Stories We Tell Ourselves with James Hazlerig

Stories are compelling, statistics are not. When it comes down to it, we all love a good story. We can even get spell-bound as we read a book, or watch a movie, but probably don't realize you are living your own story. Since we are writing our own future, we have a lot of literary license over visualizing and living the story we want to hear. How do you want the next chapter of your life to go?

We are joined by James Hazlerig, a hypnotist and story teller, who uses hypnotic storytelling to help his clients quit smoking, release fear, manage stress, and live happier lives. You can learn more about James at:


E29: You Must Choose ... Yes or No … So Choose Wisely

In our attempt to be seen as helpful sometimes we say yes too often, which leads to feeling overwhelmed and stressed. Every yes is saying no to something else. Every no is saying yes to something else. Not sure whether to say yes or no? No worries. Here's some easy ways to decide and move on, so you are not stuck in fear or guilt over which choice to make.


E28: Take Smoke Breaks to Avoid Burnout

OK, we're NOT "actually" advocating people start smoking, but we learn some interesting lessons from the now old-fashioned idea of smoke breaks during the day. Taking regular breaks helps us avoid burnout. In fact, sitting chained to your desk all day is actually as or more unhealthy than smoking (ever heard sitting is the new smoking?).

Here's some practical advice for how you can incorporate small breaks into your day so you don't burn out in flames or smolder like a cigarette. Taking breaks will actually increase your productivity.


E27: Getting out of the Weeds that are Slowing You Down with Sara Caputo

Are you at the top of your triangle doing your most important work, or wasting your time in the weeds? If you are like most people, you find yourself buried in the weeds during much of each week feeling unproductive.

We are joined by Sara Caputo, a productivity expert, who shares her practical "Top Triangle" model and the questions you should be asking yourself to separate the best use of your time from the weeds. When your team, process and communication are in working order, you’ll be able to stay out of the weeds, and unlock your limitless potential.

To learn more about Sara Caputo, visit

You can download the Top Triangle and Iceberg resources she shared during the episode.


E26: Lessons Learned from 25 Amazing Episodes

Over the last 25 episodes of the Fire and Earth Podcast, we have talked to some amazing guests and learned a lot. In this episode we share some highlights from previous episodes and how we have changed ourselves, by incorporating what we've learned and implemented into our daily lives.


E25: Solving the Productivity Puzzle with Sara Caputo

If we could just improve our productivity we wouldn't waste so much time, missing out on what we really want in life. We are joined by Sara Caputo, an environmental therapist and productivity expert, who helps us solve the productivity puzzle with a practical model (The Productivity Puzzle Worksheet) on managing your physical space, calendar, to-do list, and maintaining. Learn how to take control of each day and week to ensure you focus on the important instead of what feels urgent.

To learn more about Sara Caputo, visit and to access the free Productivity Puzzle Worksheet Sara referenced during the episode, click here.


E24: Getting Back on the Wagon When You Fall Off

The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry. When we set our mind to do something and then fall short we have options: dust yourself off and hop back on the wagon, or wallow in self pity. In this episode we discuss some practical steps you can take to put things in perspective, dust yourself off, and get back to unlocking your potential.


E23: Communication Breakdown - How to Avoid It

Let's face it, sometimes we have communication breakdowns that increase our stress and damage our relationships. Learn how to be more mindful in your communications by being present, listening, asking questions, knowing the other person's communication preference and reversing your buts.


E22: Predictions for 2019 and Beyond with Jeanne Mozier

We are joined again by Jeanne Mozier, who shares her predictions for 2019 and 2020 based on astrological charts. If you want to know what you can anticipate the rest of this year and into the next couple, take a listen. This way you can be prepared when these things transpire and avoid the surprise most of the world will experience. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.


E21: Don't Resist Change, Evolve into a Better You

Change is a natural part of life that we need to embrace. Instead of staying in a rut, or running faster on the hamster wheel, embrace change as a way to help you evolve into a better you. Use the fear, think, do model to help you move from a place of fear to taking action to spice up your life and become a new and better you. Here's some tips to help you make little changes each day to move you towards the good things and success you want in your life.


E20: What's Written in the Stars, Planets and a Wall with Jeanne Mozier

Astrology is so much more than reading the Sunday horoscope. It's about making sense of the patterns and cycles in the universe. Consider this, the Berlin Wall went up and came down during similar astrological patterns. We happen to be in this similar pattern again, and there is now talk of putting up another wall. Coincidence? Maybe, but there just may be more written in the stars and planets than we realize.

We are joined by Jeanne Mozier who provides more insight into astrology and dispels some common myths and misunderstandings.

For those of you who may be skeptical, take a listen to what Jeanne has to say ... who by the way started off as a skeptic herself as a research analyst with the Central Intelligence Agency. Oh, and that Berlin Wall thing. Jeanne predicted it to the day, six months before the wall came crumbling down.

E19: Creating a Positive Corporate Culture with Dennis Ford - Part 2

Part 2 our interview with Dennis Ford.

Changing and improving corporate culture is not creating another sales strategy or a putting ping-pong table in the break room. It's about developing a respectful, happy, joyful, supportive workplace where workers feel empowered and engaged.

When 80% of US workers are un-engaged, and negative culture costs $550 billion each year ... even when organizations spend over $100 billion in traditional rewards ... something is wrong.

We are joined by Dennis Ford, an amazing guy and flying trapeze buddy, who is also an expert in corporate culture. Learn how to develop a corporate culture of respect, trust, empathy, and compassion. You'll also see that compassion and empathy are really a strength, not a weakness in the business world.

You can learn more about Dennis at: and grab his book "Monetize Your Culture" on Amazon.

E18: Creating a Positive Corporate Culture with Dennis Ford - Part 1

Changing and improving corporate culture is not creating another sales strategy or a putting ping-pong table in the break room. It's about developing a respectful, happy, joyful, supportive workplace where workers feel empowered and engaged.

When 80% of US workers are un-engaged, and negative culture costs $550 billion each year ... even when organizations spend over $100 billion in traditional rewards ... something is wrong.

We are joined by Dennis Ford, an amazing guy and flying trapeze buddy, who is also an expert in corporate culture. Learn how to develop a culture of respect, trust, empathy, compassion and consideration. You'll also see that compassion and empathy are really a strength, not a weakness in the business world.

You can learn more about Dennis at: and grab his book "Monetize Your Culture" on Amazon.

E17: Leaping Ahead Your Journey using Brainspotting with Gregg Unterberger

Brainspotting is a powerful, focused treatment method that works by identifying, processing and releasing core neurophysiological sources of emotional/body pain, trauma, dissociation and also helps achieve peak performance (used by top athletes, actors, etc...). In this episode we discuss how it works and can be a quicker way for releasing unresolved trauma and unlocking potential than traditional talk therapy which can often take years.

We are joined by Gregg Unterberger, M.Ed. a licensed professional counselor and international workshop presenter who works with individuals and couples suffering with depression, anxiety, phobias, grief, relationship issues and plain old garden variety stress.

Learn more about Gregg at:

and check out his book: The Quickening: Leaping Ahead on Your Spiritual Journey

E16: Put Some Magic in Your Life

Do you remember going to magic shows as a child and experiencing a sense of awe and wonder? Sometimes as adults we let the magic go, and fall into common, ordinary, normal lives. Life is made up of serendipitous experiences, and if we are looking for them, we can see magic all around us in our daily life.

A magician doing magic tricks by themselves is called practice. When they are in front of an audience, those tricks become magic and everyone in the room can experience the awe and wonder. Ingredients sitting on the kitchen counter is not a cake until they are put together in the right order and the reactions with the other ingredients happen. The energy and interplay of people when the come together creates magic, so go put some magic in your life.

E15: Unlocking the Power of Teams with Teresa Kwon

One of the biggest ways to unlock your own potential is to unlock the power of your team, and it doesn't mean beating employees with a stick to make them more "productive." You do it through loyalty, love and treating them as a human beings. Having values alignment, empowering others, and focusing on nurturing the right culture are keys to unlocking teams. When you do this, employees will love you and be willing to work and die for you, and btw you won't have to worry about "motivating" them all the time, since they will already be self motivated. If you want a stronger team, here's how to do it.

We are joined by our special guest Teresa Kwon, a leadership coach that helps online entrepreneurs scale their businesses, build strong cultures, and develop a leader mindset.

You can learn more about Teresa at:

E14: Hypnosis is NOT A Circus Freak Show

If you went to the county fair as a child you may have seen stage hypnosis shows that often feel like a circus freak show. People doing silly antics on the stage (e.g. clucking like a chicken), but that is not what hypnosis is really about. Hypnosis is nothing to be afraid of ... we hypnotize ourselves without even realizing it all the time ... and it is a powerful tool to help us tap into our sub-conscious mind.

Instead of trying to use consciousness to fix the sub-conscious brain, why not go right to the source. We can spend years in talk therapy, or we can tap directly into our sub-conscious and get quicker results. In this episode we explain the process and benefits of hypnosis from a hypnotherapist and patient point of view.

E13: Gratitude Makes You Positive and Happy

A little gratitude goes a long way to improve our own life, and the lives of others. The more grateful we are, the more positive we become. The more positive we are, the happier we become. Say please and thank you. Give people compliments. Keep a gratitude journal. Express your gratitude and you will be amazed how good you feel. Here's how to cultivate more gratitude in your daily life.

E12: Feed Your Brain the Good Stuff

We are taught to feed our bodies good things: fresh, clean, lean and green ... and avoid junk food and poison. We spend time and effort exercising and eating healthy, but often overlook what we feed our soul and brain. What we feed our brain is arguably more important than what we feed our body. If we consume negative thoughts, we get negative feelings. If we consume positive thoughts, we get positive feeling. Learn how to change your thoughts, and change your life.

E11: Social Media: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly w/ Phil Gerbyshak

Technology has afforded us with a powerful tool in social media. It can be used for good, bad, and some downright ugly purposes. People can fall easily into comparison traps, judging others, technology addiction, and even bullying without even realizing it. We can use social media as a force for good by sharing our joy, positivity, and lifting others up. In this episode we share tips for how to use social media to improve your life and the lives of others. You can use social media as a force for good.

We are joined again by social media expert Phil Gerbyshak.

You can learn more about Phil at: or connect with him on Facebook:

E10: Reducing Stress with Time Management

The level of stress felt by people has increased dramatically in the last few years. There are many reasons for this ... but are your ready for a big one you may not be expecting? Much of our stress is caused by not managing our time wisely. A little dose of good, old-fashioned time management can do wonders for reducing your daily stress. Since we no longer live in a traditional 9-5 business world, we have to work even harder to prioritize and know when to unplug from the 24/7 digital world. Get some practical tips for reducing your stress by taking back control of your time.

E9: Using Partnerships to Unlock Your Potential

Even though it may be hard to admit, no matter who you are, you need help from others to be successful. In this episode Kathy and Jason discuss how to find others to collaborate and partner with that support and bring out the best in you. When you get the right people in the room, magic happens. Transformations happen. You will also learn "the rest of the story" on how Kathy and Jason met and why it's called The Fire & Earth Podcast.

E8: Using Social Media to Make Human Connections w Phil Gerbyshak

Social media is now an every-day part of our lives, and some people use it in a very sleazy way. The equivalent of walking up to someone at a party and saying "you're pretty attractive, let's make a baby." We should be using social media to make actual human connections, to educate and inspire, not to inflame and make people feel icky.

We are joined by social media selling expert Phil Gerbyshak who explains how to develop actual human connections through social media, attract more of the people you want to work with, and unlock the potential of social media in your business and life.

You can learn more about Phil at:

E7: Manifestations and the Law of Attraction with Victoria Gallagher

Some of you may be a little skeptical about the Law of Attraction. Think positive and everything good will come into your life if you just believe in the woo-woo, seems a little too good to be true. Many of us are taught to be logical, oh responsible, practical so we can be so dependable, oh clinical, intellectual, cynical and discount the power of manifestations and the Law of Attraction. Instead of being cynical about the woo-woo (which btw is now being supported by scientific research) why not give it a try and see if it works for you.

Victoria Gallagher shares her journey of starting as a skeptical stockbroker to her transition to becoming a hypnotherapist and expert in the Law of Attraction. She explains how to make the Law of Attraction practical by listening to those little intuitions and practicing alignment to unlock your potential.

You can learn more about Victoria and find out more information about her most recent book Practical Law of Attraction at:

E6: The Masks We Wear

Many people wear masks to show the world one thing, when on the inside they may feel much different. When it comes down to it, most people have insecurities and are afraid to let others know their "real" self. This can lead to negative feelings of unworthiness, being fake, or that we are never good enough.

In order to build authentic and deep relationships with people we have to remove our masks, embrace our weirdness and allow ourselves to be vulnerable. Some people may not like the "real you," but that's OK. Those who do will L-O-V-E you.

If you feel like you are wearing a mask you shouldn't be wearing, have the courage to take it off and be authentically you. Embrace your weirdness and "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken" - Oscar Wilde.

For more information about the exercise Jason referenced in this episode, check out:

Ashanti Branch, Founder and Executive Director, The Ever Forward Club at:

The 100K Mask Challenge at:

Masks Documentary:

E5: Staying Positive During the Year from Hell

Do you ever feel like you are just having a "year from hell?" You know one of those Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Years. We all have good days and bad days, but what do we do when it feels like the bad seems to stretch over the course of whole year? How do we deal with our work and personal life when it's hard to concentrate, we are pulled in many directions, and feel like we are spiraling down?

Join us on the episode to learn how to use tools like, blocking out time, self compassion, awareness, and gratitude to stay positive and find the good when you make a shift and realize it's actually been a very good year.

E4: Stress: Are You Running from Bears or Chipmunks?

Stress is a threat ... real or imagined. It's a perception that demands will exceed our resources that causes stress, anxiety, and freaks us out. Usually the perceived threat doesn't require a major chemical and biological response ... like we need when running from a bear. Running from stress to stress during the day feels like we ran away from 20 angry bears without a break. No wonder we find ourselves stressed and exhausted at the end of the day. Stop trying to change and control things we can't control. Instead focus on controlling your thoughts and response after you perceive clearly what is really going on. In the present moment there is no stress. So pause, get present and you will find that what you thought was a bear is really a cute chipmunk and the stress just melts away.

E3: Breathe and Smell the Roses

In our 24/7 world we can get so busy being busy that we run ourselves ragged and feel worn out ... the equivalent of our body's battery running on <20% (**red-light warning**). When this happens we need to STOP, pause and take a few minutes for self-care - breathe, smell the roses, meditate, etc... to recharge our battery and sharpen our saw. Taking a few minutes will give you more energy, increase your productivity and unlock your potential.

E2: Moving Past Fear

Instead of living in fear and missing out on life by holding back, learn how you can overcome False Expectations Appearing Real (FEAR). When you move forward and face your fears you will feel the exhilaration of accomplishment. You will even surprise yourself with what you can accomplish and unlock your potential.

E1: Goal Setting to Get Started

The first step to unlocking your potential is to know where you want to go, why you want to go there, and set some big goals to start achieving. Without goals, we just stay in the daily grind, surviving, but not thriving. In this episode, Kathy and Jason discuss some keys for setting and achieving goals to start unlocking your potential.