Q&A How to Use OCEG GRC Capability Model in Implementations

Here is how to use the OCEG GRC Capability Model in terms of implementations. This answers a question I received about how OCEG and UCF (Unified Compliance Framework) work together.

This video provides and answer to a question I received on this topic.

To learn how to implement the OCEG GRC Capability Model and qualify for the GRC Professional certification, learn more at: https://jasonmefford.teachable.com/p/training-to-obtain-your-grc-professional-grcp-certification/

This video answers a question I received on this video: https://youtu.be/P26H8_g-o2Q

Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Hi everybody this is Jason Mefford I received a question on one of the previous videos that I’ve done. So I thought I’d go through and read the question and then

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Jason Mefford: Have this video help to explain and provide the answer, because I’m guessing. Some of you may have this same question.

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Jason Mefford: So the question came in from Vinod Andani and they say, how do you consider outside capability model in terms of implementations

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Jason Mefford: Does this guide on how to set up eg RC or integrated risk management or defined standard controls, where you see after the unified compliance framework also considers this as part of unification of controls on compliance requirements.

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Jason Mefford: If I were to design eGRC is this one of the authority documents slash standards guidelines in addition to nest ISO etc totally confused on usage of post sec

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Jason Mefford: Okay, so let me go through and just kind of explain here because there’s a couple of things going on.

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Jason Mefford: So the first one is to make sure that you’re clear on the difference between mandatory and voluntary requirements. So when you’re talking about compliance.

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Jason Mefford: We used to refer to something as being a mandatory compliance, so that would be things like laws and regulations, those things that your organization has to follow.

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Jason Mefford: Voluntary are other documents, your organization chooses to follow. So, for example, an ISO standard is usually not required.

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Jason Mefford: The O sag framework is usually not required. So both of those would be considered voluntary.

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Jason Mefford: versus, you know, maybe like a privacy law in your country would be considered something to be mandatory.

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Jason Mefford: So first off, like I said, you have to remember and keep straight. The difference between mandated or mandatory and voluntary. OK.

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Jason Mefford: Now the second thing, there was there was a reference in here to UCF for the unified compliance framework.

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Jason Mefford: So what what UCF does is, it is a tool that allows you to select different documents and I’m going to use the term authority documents.

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Jason Mefford: So an authority document could be a mandated compliance requirement or it could be voluntary.

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Jason Mefford: But it’s a document that you, it’s an authority document that you are choosing to comply with either because it’s mandatory or voluntary.

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Jason Mefford: Now what UCF does is they take the language from each of those authority documents and they map them back to the little same list of common controls.

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Jason Mefford: So, for example, a lot of the ISO documents, one that the nog also referred to as nest and oh sag. Those are all documents in the UCF.

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Jason Mefford: Framework that you can select so what you decide to say okay if I need to follow NIST I add that to my list. If I need to follow ISO standards and I’ll, I’ll add those to it.

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Jason Mefford: If I want to follow the same framework. You can also add that to it. Now what the UCF tool does is it takes all of those different mandates are things that you are asked to do

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Jason Mefford: And it maps them back to the same list of common controls and so you can use that tool as a way to help you kind of D duplicate and figure out exactly what it is that you need to do.

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Jason Mefford: Because every time that you add a new authority document. It doesn’t mean that you have to do, maybe 300 new things. There may only be 50 new things that you have to do because you’re already doing 250 of them. So like I said,

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Jason Mefford: To start with, you know, there’s a difference between mandated and voluntary and then this is that’s a little overview of what the UCF framework does for organizations.

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Jason Mefford: So you need to decide which authority documents you want to comply with. And so the question was about the OH segue framework. And so this is the Osage GR C capability model.

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Jason Mefford: And this is one of the frameworks that I helped to develop. Now, you also need to think about the G the ER and the C and G RC.

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Jason Mefford: The OSI model is intended for you to help you in developing an integrated GR C capability.

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Jason Mefford: And what that means is that the different silos or functions or departments or whatever you call them in your organization are working together.

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Jason Mefford: So that that framework or I’ll use that word framework or model for them has different components and elements that you need to include

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Jason Mefford: To kind of have a complete picture 4G RC. So if you for example, compare oh sags model to an ISO standard, you may notice that the OH sag model is more broad

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Jason Mefford: Because it’s trying to be for the whole of GR C, not for a particular thing like ISO 27,001 only relates to is Ms or information security management systems. Okay.

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Jason Mefford: So you’ll notice that the OSI model would bring in more things than just ISO 27,001 by itself. So there’s those the the list of components.

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Jason Mefford: And elements that you need to have in place and in the OSI model, there is also what are called implementation or design considerations when you are designing controls.

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Jason Mefford: So if you want to use the OSI model as one of the authority documents and you’re using UCF, you would select that in your list of authority documents that you want to comply with

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Jason Mefford: Now what it’ll do is all of those actions and controls will be mapped back to that same list of common controls that the UCF has okay

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Jason Mefford: So hopefully that helps in trying to answer this, you know, the, the, the question about around eg RC, I guess, let me focus. Let me touch on that before I sign off here to

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Jason Mefford: Eg RC usually is relating to kind of the it component to it. So the GR C software that you are using. Now if if you’re if you also want to follow the

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Jason Mefford: Guidelines and yes I would suggest that you include that in or consider that with some of those other things that you’re looking at.

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Jason Mefford: It’s not required. It’s a voluntary thing that your organization can choose to follow. Just like Nestor ISO, or some of these other voluntary things

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Jason Mefford: But it is another option for you to be able to do that. So hopefully that helps if there’s other questions about it, please leave a comment below and I’ll get it answered for you.