Fire & Earth Podcast E69: No Pills or Potions, Just Words with Freddy Jacquin

In this #fireandearthpodcast episode we are truly honored to speak with Freddy Jacquin, Internationally Acclaimed Hypnotherapist, Author, Speaker & Hypnosis Trainer, who is one of the top hypnotists in the world and has helped over 30,000 clients.

Most of us are walking around around in trance already, so we might as well use hypnosis as a way to achieve freedom from perceived limitation, fear, habitual behavior and pain. We discuss tapping into emotion, cutting out the fluff and ceremony, Freddy’s “thank protocol”, and how to get right to the point without any BS.

You’ll even see Freddy work with Kathy and Jason during the episode to show how easy it can be to use the power of hypnosis to improve your life, and anyone can do it if you want to change.

Learn more about Freddy at: https://freddyjacquin.com/

If you want to boost your immune system for free (never hurts with the corona virus): https://freddyjacquin.com/immune-system-boost/

To access the online hypnosis training mentioned during the episode: https://www.jacquinhypnosisacademy.com/

To access the World Quit Smoking program Freddy mentioned during the episode: https://www.worldquitsmoking.com/

Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Welcome everybody to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, I’m your co host Jason Medford

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Kathy Gruver: And I’m Kathy gruver and we are so excited to have yet another amazing guest is another good friend of mine from the hypnotherapy world. I know we’re tapping every hypnotherapist we can not to make a tapping EFT joke, along with hypnosis.

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Kathy Gruver: Anybody that knows what that is is like, oh, that was good. Okay. So, my dear friend jack when he’s gonna share everything he knows in 25 minutes so okay thank you so much for being on the show. It’s such an honor to have you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: lost me.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, so why don’t you give us a little bit about your background how you got into this in the first place. And then we have so many questions for you. So

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FREDDY JACQUIN: What is that there’s a story going around or it was true, but I knew nothing about hypnosis and us up my excuses. I was single, at the time I was out of the friends.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And we ended up going back to his place with a couple of girls and the conversation went around to the normal thing. What do you do for a living.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And because I had a couple of beers. The first thing that came to mind was on the hypnotist. And so she went through and I’ve never hit the size anyone my life.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: hypnotizing saying about it’s all, it’s just the first thing that came out in the test you do when you’ve been so she. So can you give me an answer. Cool. So, can

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Never hit the time

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Frames. You know, so anyway, so I just said. So I said, she said, or Golden Dawn. So I said, Okay. Close your eyes.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I must have seen something on TV. I said, you know, like, your eyes are getting heavier. They include their stock, you know, you can try it out, poof on a completely glued together and me. I was expecting to go, Oh, you’re not a hypnotist. But no, she went oh

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Let me, let me know. She can arise, right. So now I’m stuck because I what I didn’t know that was going to advertiser until I have no idea how to get around this stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So anyway, I just said, you know, no matter counter through your eyes loud. You’ll feel great. You will Otter best man. Well, whether it was at the time 123 eyes. Open your eyes. And it was just fascinating to me. And from then I just thought I gotta learn how to do stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because I never knew anything about it until that point.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And so then, of course, came up, I, I’ve been in America came back and I saw this course advertise it was wasn’t very good.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But I did it. And it got me in there like Jason was saying. Once you really your fascination of it and it’s a rabbit hole. We just got to keep learning. Yeah, and then

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I started and I just set up a place, so I didn’t quit smoking. And at that time, because I had another business. I was in sales. So I’m on sales company and

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I just setting up getting

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The advert and I still need to buy ad smoke question mark one. A quick question mark hypnosis one session I time it was 39 pounds. So the guy was 39 pounds guaranteed if you don’t quit on charging. What have you got to lose, but the habit. Right. So it’s a great app.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, I mean, in on time and my way of thinking was like never times one person. I wanted to get the ties.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And then when I was a hypnotize to I thought it ties a room full of people. So I’ve got into it and sizing 200 people at a time in 2006 I saw 5000 smokers in one year.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: In one year, five years in groups of 200 people. And over the course of time, I’ve been doing this. I’ve seen either 25,000 people for smoking.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So I know it’s but it’s all the other things that, as I said, I just love it and I if you can advertise when you advertise around for the people, for the first time.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I was so poor at the time are still using scripts, but I knew enough to say, okay, we’re ready to go take a breath and close your eyes, please feel the floor, take a breath and close your eyes. Co sponsor eyes were closed out came

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FREDDY JACQUIN: She can begin to the

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Top and there’s like 60 people in a row. Yes, that’s great. So anyway, I love this innocence and you’ve seen you’ve watched me present. I love this stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And over the years in my way of thinking of how we work and how we, the things that happen have changed. I used to think people came into my room and they were there. Tell me what their problem was

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’d come up with some kind of strategy or they say what I wanted to do a quick doing i’d listened to run on feedback to hypnotize me feedback I now think we’re already in trance. I think we’re already walking around in trance, or beer and negative, you know,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Detrimental trauma, so I can’t quit smoking lose weight can’t do this. Can’t do that. And so really now I see a different way. I think all got to do is

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FREDDY JACQUIN: A bitesize them take them out of the negative transfer in and leave them in a very positive for any tracks. You know that’s that’s the way it is and it’s no longer complex, you know, we were just talking before we came on air about the power of emotion.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And once once we understand how quickly we can influence people once we send them in to create an emotion. It’s amazing. I’m going to do you Jason right now. You ready

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Jason Mefford: Oh boy. Here we go.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You get that as well. Kathy, do you like

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The most important people you like just

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Jason Mefford: My wife has one

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Right, okay.

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Names Olly olly

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Jason Mefford: Olly

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Olly okay do this just just place your hand out in front of you like the show.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Okay, now look at me in the camera just look at me in the camera. I think about like think about a lot of you feel, for she feels for you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I feel that love right now and as she fell in love with notes that hands hanging all by itself.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Imagine now there’s nothing you can do about that when you realize there’s nothing to do about it. Jason can try and get it down, but it was even higher.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I didn’t want to pretend pushing hard on it and it goes even I knew, Tony, you’re strong man push even harder wanted to go up to the ceiling. Now, how do you target it down.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Push even harder because even higher, there’s something strange going on. How do you try and get on down or the other one’s going to go

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FREDDY JACQUIN: pushing harder for the other one coming off the off the table. Now, there it goes. But I hit retires or even a chance is that even your arm push even harder because even

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I even saw so you know trans

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I don’t know, but I might move my arm feels really weird like

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Kathy Gruver: It’s not even look

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FREDDY JACQUIN: At this point in time, guys. Then we could operate on an arm and a leg, because it’s no longer your arm, and I’m going to click my fingers your armor drift down your eyes are closed for a split second. When I open, you’ll probably laugh out loud.

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Jason Mefford: I mean, I do, I feel that warmth in my

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Jason Mefford: In my area now.

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Kathy Gruver: Yes.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s no longer complex tonight you know and like what we were saying earlier, before we came on air. Now we’ve got zoom. We can work all over the world, there are no limits.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s just phenomenal. You know, I live in this little tiny little town they thousand people and and I sort of saying to Jason earlier, you know, it’s seaside town Nolan stressed. If I relied on making a living in this town.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But, you know, luckily we have, we’re open to the world now and

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Let me do this with you, Kathy. I’m going to show your work on. So in so anyone else watching this can say I I take people to transcend so I like I like this and I think you’ll like it. Okay, are you ready when they

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Leave your make your day. Thanks to Kathy right

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Kathy Gruver: Time.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Three inches from your face back yes it now just relax your hand forward sides facing away from you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Look at a spot or a line on the back of your hand. Just one line one spot.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I’d like you Kathy’s unconscious mind when it’s ready to allow the most profound statement gnosis.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To start to turn that hand toward our face. I didn’t want to do anything. Cathy just focus on the spot in the back your hand.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And when the unconscious mind is ready to allow Kathy to drift in the most profound state of hypnosis, but I can start selling their hands. Water face so I can feel his finger starting to move now Kathy.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s right, that’s right hand says what’s your face automatically. Now, that’s why you can try it still find lose even quicker now.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When your fingers touch your face, your eyes will close your body relax you will stay in that chair, you will not fall out the chair, but your body relax your mind. Relax going to go into the most profound wonderful state of hypnosis. Get ready.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Only as quickly as Kathy’s unconscious minds ready to allow that wonderful feeling. That’s right. There you go.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s right. All the way in deeper, deeper, deeper down now. And once again, think about the people you love. Kathy people love you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: All the people that you’ve helped with your understanding your love and your skill.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, think about those wonderful people out there now living their lives in a better way. Because of you, and let that remind you of just are loved you on how fabulous you are as a woman as a being a therapist.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To spaces, but I love that flood your body with our light not love.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’m going to count to three, your handle drift down your eyes open, but that feeling of love and freedom. It’s going to stay with you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And you’re going to understand just how fabulous. You are one thing, wonderful to to achieve all the things you want to achieve in your life and do it brilliantly three and drifting down is opening financing incredible now.

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Kathy Gruver: I love you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Once you found the idea that this is not about

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Closed you sorry, Jason. There’s no eyes closed, whereas the relaxation in that

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know all the things we were taught over the years about this thing important and that being important how people in trance that’s gone for me now. You know, if I can create an emotion. It’s very easy. I can ask, Jason. The back alley and I can create that emotion that

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You love and I can create an emotion. And in that moment, your mind is open to that suggestion. So it’s great said it’s no longer complex

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Jason Mefford: And I want to say as I’m sitting here listening to you right i mean it’s it’s like I’m trying to also, you know, like summarize a little bit and some you’re a badass.

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Jason Mefford: Right. I mean, it’s like you know your your story of, you know, bringing the girls back to the apartment and saying you’re a hypnotist and hypnotizing or and then like, holy crap, you know, and then, you know,

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Jason Mefford: I mean you know and and you can you jump right in, you know, to, to doing groups, you know, which to me, I would think has got to be

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Jason Mefford: Kind of like a scary leap but but to me it just shows people to that, you know, everybody that’s listening. Hey, we can we can take these risks. Take this jump. And I mean, all kinds of things can happen.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, obviously believe if people can hear me. Yeah, I don’t care if it’s a stadium with hundred thousand people if they’re there. And I want to challenge you know this Catholic. Yeah, that’s the criteria, you know, do you really want to change. Are you ready to change. You know, I think.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think Mike Mandela’s call it the threshold.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And that threshold where you’re ready to make those changes.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because if you are, and you’re listening to me and you’re willing to gains this that I have no doubt, doesn’t matter who’s listening. How many people are they going to go into hypnosis and if they’re there for that change, they’re going to get the change. So there are no limits.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And and in some respects in a big group. There’s a group dynamic because, well, you know, often have someone who’s thinking they’re sitting there thinking I might have. I think I’ve emphasized, and I look up look round robin is 200 people sit there and I go, go straight back.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s just, it’s just phenomenal.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But you know, I just think we haven’t even scratched the surface of what we can do with hypnosis and hypnotherapy and and the more we learn the easier it becomes and the more we get rid of what I call the fluff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, the, the ceremony around it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When you were there in

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FREDDY JACQUIN: in last place we might Mandela in his keynote speech.

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Kathy Gruver: Ah,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know it’s phenomenal.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, yeah, an hour of embedding loops and taking you on this journey and taking you back to me, East east. East best as far as I know, he said, always the best

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But the reason he said that because we were we were he picked me up from the airport. When I did a presentation in Toronto and he was he was he was going through some the thing that he wanted to get rid of. And he, you know, he’s the greatest in the world as part of Sir

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But I knew there was a moment.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To just say, and I just said to him about it ever bother you, again, and it did.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, and so sometimes shifting

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Being conversation. Once you understand and you’re looking for those spikes of emotion. If I make you laugh, but can include shake

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That sounds so easy is

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, providing I know exactly when that spiral emotionless I can give you a suggestion, that’s likely to bypass any resistance.

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Kathy Gruver: Right. Well, it’s a it’s so fascinating because I think so often our subconscious is right there wanting to help and this conscious part of ourselves doesn’t let it I was talking with a

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Kathy Gruver: Woman at a party, and she was talking about how inhibited. She was around her husband and she didn’t want to

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Kathy Gruver: Like she won’t even put on lingerie, and it was really bothering her and what she wanted to be more adventurous. And I said, Well, why do you think you’re like that. She goes, I don’t know. And I said, Yes, you do. And she goes, yeah, and she tells me the entire story.

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Kathy Gruver: So the for the entire night I realized anytime. She’d say, I don’t know.

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Kathy Gruver: All I had to say was, yes you do. And she’d give me this great answer. She just wasn’t aware of it. At first she was either embarrassed about her. She was covering it up or the you know her. She just

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Kathy Gruver: She knew, but she wasn’t tapping into that and I think we just have to ask the right questions. And you’re right, Freddie get people in that right emotional mindset and

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Kathy Gruver: Have you had any Mike Mandel always he was actually on our show for a couple episodes. He tells the story about the, you know, I’m assuming deck is waiting. The guy who

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Kathy Gruver: He had so much trouble working with. And so we ended up doing that with the rock star in Australia. Have you had a really difficult client or situation where you’re like nothing’s working, what do I do with this person.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think it’s about being so let’s be honest, it sounds awesome.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But you know, I think a lot of people think we’re born, we will not bring

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Arrived in armies to be in size. It’s the

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FREDDY JACQUIN: absolute opposite, sir, and more intelligent, the briar, they are, the easier to go into it and I success up last what I find I mean I do that, I’m not knocking this place in Wales cat called an athlete. I did a group quit smoking down in once and I start with a finger lock.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So much control, just do this through the whole group with the finger along and I say, Just follow my instructions so i i say copy me and then I’m looking at a river that people saying, My thing is I’m coming together.

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Jason Mefford: They’re not copying you

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Say you know go another cup of coffee.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because, you know, they’re not going to get it. And it’s just, you know, so they’re not alone sequences resistance. I saw

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think there are no

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FREDDY JACQUIN: There are no poor clients who are poor hypnotist you know

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When people put it on wave is not made is the client.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, I think that’s bad. I mean, I just think some people get it. Some people don’t. Some people are ready and some people don’t.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And sometimes I asked that question everyone. Are you ready to quit. Are you ready to do this and do you want to do it quite often. So no, I don’t want to quit. But my watch, watch.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: What doctor wants me to quit. So we’ll come back when you live. Yeah. You know when you’re ready to change because you can make people do stuff. I had a guy once came to see me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: He said, I want to quit smoking. So I’ve had a kidney removed. He said, from cancer. The doctors have said.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’ll continue to smile calm. I have another five or six years, but stop smoking. I could live to all days.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think said this is going to be a challenge. I said, it’s going to be a challenge. I’m going to lose because I’m not here to challenge you. I’m not here to to fight with your argue with you. I’m here, this is, this is, you know,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, say, can you make excited just hate cigarettes. I said well at the moment you’re smoking 20 cigarettes a day or whatever it is, or you don’t feel you have a choice.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You’re lying, where he wants to know if I was to make it so you can’t smoke. It’s not no choice it be me making you delegate

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When you leave here today and the need for cigarettes and you’re there with your kids and someone offers you a cigarette and you smile and say, no thanks. You can take the credit.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because you’re gonna make the choice. It’s the same weight loss. It’s a fear and phobia and all the other things we have an unlimited, you know,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s about saying, I’m ready. And I’m willing to work with you. I’d like to think that that’s I you know you’ve met me, you know, out of the presentation we’re in a presentation, you know, at the bar with no different. I might think I’m no different than I am right now speaking to you. Yeah.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s what people get, you know, they know I wanted for him, and I’ll put a little thing out post the other day. This thanks protocol. It’s a photo of you. You ready, what

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I had a dream about Tom Hanks, believe it or not, and in this dream and he might have heard this Jace, but I was I was hypnotizing Tom Hanks.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: With whether whether the induction. That’s not being used yet so I invented it in my dream. So I put this on Facebook. Now I’m going to invent it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So someone I said if you’re if you’re interested in learning this but whatever it was solid put the name Tom Hanks but T Hanks instead of Tom Hanks would spell. Thanks.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So the whole whole point of this thing is about self appreciation self love. That’s the thanks protocol, but it come from a couple of things. I’ll tell you quickly. For years I’ve been saying to my students when you’re working with someone

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Just run this loop in your mind. I care about you and I want you to be well I said if you feel it’s appropriate. Right. And I say it, but you should at least hold it in your heart and thinking when you’re working with me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So I’ve been saying this for a long time and using myself my clients that I believe they pick it up.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: If you’re, you know, some people come into this. They’re not often people come in saying this is a good way of learning some money.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And therefore you’re thinking about is the person your chair and how much money you can add they’re going to pick that up. I don’t care what you say.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: If, when you’re in that room. All you’re thinking about is, how can I help this person I care about. You’re going to be well they will pick that up as well.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So, you know, these words were running around in my mind. And then I went to India. Last year we ran some courses in India in Hyderabad and Carolyn, and

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So he sneakily styled learning Hindi and didn’t tell me about it. Okay, so even when he gets doing. Yes he can converse buy an iPad. So anyway, I thought I’d catch up. So I asked the guy you might know this 910 Cummings. He did a presentation.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So anyway, this thanks protocols come around from this. So you probably heard how opponent opponent. I think it’s called

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, we just had Mark, I’m talking about that.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Right, so they repeat the words.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, yeah, which is a lot of sort of forgiveness in my mind, but I heard about us. So the thanks protocol is this. It’s you gain to you get into this state, you know, the hypnotic state, but I do this for I get out of bed in the morning, you know, my body still asleep. I am awake.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I recognize the good within you. Thank you. I care about you and I want you to be well right so in my mind it’s much it’s much more positive than off again to. I’m sorry, you know, blah, blah.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And pitch anyway. Either way, the whole nother part of things, great, I love it. But the thanks for the call was pretty much based on these words. So I just think when we’re working with people.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And if they’re feeling that from you. Then I get into it with you. You know, I, that’s how I feel. And that’s why I think I have good results. And I do it, but hold on your mom. Okay, that you wanted to be well

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Jason Mefford: Yeah, well, because it seems like. I mean, I’ve got all kinds of questions going through my head right now. Right. I mean, I could talk to you for hours. Do

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Jason Mefford: You know, it’s interesting because like you said, you know, at the beginning of just starting with the emotion, right, because again, if you think about the brain conscious subconscious brain.

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Jason Mefford: Thinking versus feeling right thinking is more prefrontal cortex conscious kind of stuff you know emotion and feeling is more in the subconscious area.

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Jason Mefford: So to me, you know, intellectually, it makes perfect sense, whether it’s, you know, a hypnotic induction, whether it’s it’s feeling emotions for a loved one, whatever it is, helps us kind of crossover into that subconscious area where we can actually do the work. Right.

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Jason Mefford: So it’s interesting that you’ve come up with so many different ways because even the. Thank you. Right. You’re, you’re feeling grateful grateful as an emotion, the more grateful, you’re feeling, the more we can kind of tap into that. So to me again. It’s kind of like

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Jason Mefford: You know, kind of mind blowing a little bit, but I wanted to go back to what one of the things you said about

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Jason Mefford: The intellectual people were easier to actually, you know, get into hypnotic state because, you know, for me, this has always been and still is one of the things I’m trying to work on.

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Jason Mefford: Because I’m a very analytical left brain kind of person. I’m usually always in my consciousness, I’m trying, more and more

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Jason Mefford: Kind of wants to understand. It’s like, you know, I listened to something the first couple times and I’m kind of tearing it apart. Okay.

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Jason Mefford: I understand why they’re saying now. That makes sense, that’s bringing in the other emotion that’s doing all this, you know, but, you know, like you said, I guess I just, I just need to let it

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Just. Well, that’s why. I’ll be happy if I be first session. At least I always use metaphor.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because metaphor is an easy way of getting the person that other on my, you know, they think they’re concentrate on the story thinking, but you’d be thinking, why is he talking about horses.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Like you’re talking about this or talking about that. And at that point in time where your conscious mind is trying to figure it out your unconscious mind is going here. Come on.

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Jason Mefford: I got it, I got it. I understand. Right.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And we use it every day in analogies and you know we just do it. And I think for me, I love, I love it. I might have four or five people.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Have sent out of 30,000 clients were four or five metaphors that I’ve used with 30,000 clients and 30,000 clients will have got something different from each one

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Sure. Because you know the way our brain works when we’re when someone’s telling a story and our brain goes on this divisional search for meaning.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And, you know, one guy said to me once in I said if you just hypnotize someone got a newspaper and read a paragraph at a newspaper, the person where things must be a reason for this probably find some meeting that relates to that.

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Kathy Gruver: During my first wedding. We had all this ritual and all these very sort of pagan things and we jumped a broom. At the end it was a very fun ceremony marriage didn’t last very long. But the wedding was cool.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah. Well, we just, we decided to play some songs from Phantom of the Opera and you never realize how long the song is so you’re standing in front of 120 people going, yes.

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Kathy Gruver: So I was thirsty. So he grabbed water and he gave me the water and he drank the water and we just drink some water and at the end of the assembly people like

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Kathy Gruver: Because there were so many other things they didn’t know they weren’t familiar with is they thought that was part of the ceremony of US quenching each other’s first and about. Yeah. Okay. Sure. We did that thing. Yeah, that was totally plan.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Anything, because the ceremony and he become the induction.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Take your time without uniting and while he’s giving you tie back taking a bell. That’s the kind of man he is. He’s incredible, but he did a thing at the last night last year year before the

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The UK hypnosis convention. But he said, so you’ve got to go out. So he wants to be hypnotized police he got a bottle of water. And he said, This is not, it was a summer first flash your eyes feel heavy second spots closed on third splash going to go into hypnosis. So you went very

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’m like, I wrote it. I think that might quit smoking production is out there somewhere. But my son said, Why don’t you write as one for the public, this, this is for hypnotherapist the learner. Do I do. Why you do one for the public, like the Freddie carbon computer

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Well, the way I work is so simple. I wrote this, this thing was about 5000 words couldn’t call it a book. And I thought, What can I charge for it. I’ve done an audio with it. But I thought what I would just put it out there for free, you know, and so

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Quit smoking.com right so I plan on Facebook, you know, I’m recording this thing and it’s out there for free. I’m doing as honestly project. So anyone wants to do it. They don’t have to pay, but you can you can donate 10 quid to children’s charities Children’s Cancer.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So because I’ve got 2000 people in my facebook group. People said, you want it recorded in French, when it was born in Spanish. So now it’s in about 1215 languages, including American Sign Language. It’s just amazing.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Wow. How many people got on board, it’s out there that quit smoking.com it’s free. You go on you download the pamphlet you download the audio only if you quit. You can pay 10 quid. That’s all we’re asking and every penny goes to children’s cancer charities.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because now people are got on board. We got Lori haven’t recorded in American female. We got Michael Scott Brian Grossberg from LA is a lawyer today’s recording in American

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Translated and recorded the audio. I think that for me if I never do anything else. And it’s out there and it’s working. There’ll be the norm.

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Kathy Gruver: Here’s what I love about you, Friday. So when I my journey to hypnosis. It’s only been like five or six years and I started going to hypnotherapy conferences and the first two people I met were egomaniac

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Kathy Gruver: Assholes. Literally, I walked into a conference in the first two people. I came across were just jerks.

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Kathy Gruver: So many hypnotist who were just into power trips and into ego it into and the more I’ve gotten to know the amazing people that are in this profession.

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Kathy Gruver: Are the ones that are the greatest you and Mike mendell and Ken and Jason and, you know, like all these people that are so phenomenal. They are so generous.

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Kathy Gruver: And it’s so nice to have split that because you guys are some of the tops in the world. And you’re also the most generous and I realized those two guys I met at first. You were just egomaniac jerks. They’re not very good.

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Kathy Gruver: They were just covering up for sale. It’s like the little guy in the big truck.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, it was just crazy. It was just phenomenal and is something you can’t you can’t express it in any other way.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, and that feeling, you know, in that room, we should i mean i you probably one time I I couldn’t even speak. You know when when Daniel getting

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Kathy Gruver: Well, what are you at, what are you at now. And everybody could kind of dropped down to like either zero or one or two. And there was one guy, Daniel, who, I think, and only gotten down to a four.

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Kathy Gruver: And Freddie said will head back to your seat and when you realize your pain free. You’re going to come up up front. I’m gonna cry it out and say, Friday, I love you.

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Kathy Gruver: And like 20 minutes goes by and also Daniel jumps up out of his chair runs up on

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I said the same thing because it’s it’s like a post it note in time bound suggestion.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It went down to two. And I said, Okay, we’ll go back to see I’d only be five minutes or 10 minutes from now when you suddenly realize every ounce that pain is gone. And when it does, you’ll come up and say, pretty. I love you. I don’t even know why I said it is not worth visiting Canada.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And it sounds like a tractor.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, so you came off. I love it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I don’t have a t shirt with you. I love you for it on the front and whatever it was on the back.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But, you know, amazing. It’s just joy. I mean,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, I do presentations around great people tend to be the most thought slide is one of those places where it’s just lovely.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, it’s just people are just so nice and everyone wants the best for everybody. You know, I just love it there. I mean, it’s, it’s, um, yeah, it’s great, but

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I don’t know why he can’t be generous to this, I find it hard, and it sounds pressing say heart to even ask for money for doing this work.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because I don’t even call it work.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I say are qualified as a therapist in the early 90s and I haven’t worked since I saw

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Kathy Gruver: Oh my god. We’ve once again blown even pass our half hour of time for oh my god front of your amazing. So you’ve got a new book coming out that a bunch of hypnotist. And thank you so much for letting me be a part of that.

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Kathy Gruver: Are contributing stories. And what’s the best website to reach you and tell me that smoking site again.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: This month, so I will quit smoking.com

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Kathy Gruver: Cool. Beautiful.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: They hit the therapy.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: People seem to love that and we bought this this collaboration with your now hold

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah lovely stories from people in Europe, it’s going to be on maybe June or July.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah. Beautiful. And what’s, what’s the best surgeon general website to reach you.

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Kathy Gruver: Pretty jacqueline.com okay here was

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The only other things on this new project, which is out for free. The

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The immune system booster MP3 is going to be on there you know the the other stuffs on the quit smoking sign all those links are on there pretty gentlemen.com is dead simple.

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Kathy Gruver: Though you’re incredible and your. I love that everyone is so generous with their time and their knowledge and Jason and I did a show on

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Kathy Gruver: Sometimes the learning happens in the bar, not the classroom and that came out of the UK hypnosis convention, because

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Kathy Gruver: You said we all sit around and we share knowledge and we share stories and you know it’s not always about the classroom. It’s about just being in life and being present with people so

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Kathy Gruver: I so appreciate you. You’re amazing you’re suddenly

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You feel fabulous.

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Jason Mefford: Looks great to me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Journey you’re laying down like there’s no way I

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Jason Mefford: Know I’m going down the rabbit hole with everybody else. I’ll have to be in Las Vegas and

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Kathy Gruver: Everything we don’t

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Jason Mefford: I wanted to acknowledge you for it because you know as we’re going through talking about it and you talked about the the thank protocol right and and the end, the term that you said you know I care about you and want you to be well yeah and

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Jason Mefford: You totally embody that

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Jason Mefford: I mean, I mean, again, you can

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Jason Mefford: I can feel your energy clear across the pond right of just how much you care.

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Jason Mefford: You know what, what you’re doing and how you’re trying to make the world a better place. So

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Jason Mefford: Totally love you, man. I mean this is just what what you’re doing does impact life because you know even even that story. You know about trying to reduce pain at the conference that you

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Jason Mefford: Were talking about everybody has pain.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah yeah

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And and Kathy will tell you that room. We said anyone in pain, stand up.

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Kathy Gruver: Everybody stand up. See

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FREDDY JACQUIN: How many people are in pain, you know, emotional, physical when we ran this thing takes five minutes. The arrow technique.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, which is what people are normally for is so much more to me than that.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But they still 90 for that when I’d say if you

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FREDDY JACQUIN: paint color drastically reduce it down when men join a room, sit back down again. It’s amazing, you know, and I will have the ability to do it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You have the ability to do that, you know, we have a training platform, if anyone wants to go to is dead change. I think it’s $47 you can go on there.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But all of my stuff rolling my son Anthony stuff. So I think I’ve always given it while you’re still can’t figure out, but you can download the arrow products on there. You can download my quit smoking products on there, all this stuff we did with my van del x rays on there.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I think if you’re interested. Hypnosis really worth. They’re not trying to sell it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think it’s really worth doing.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Oh yeah, and hopefully anyone listening to this watching this

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Open I’ll meet you in person someday maybe the other guy, a New Orleans or somewhere and

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Jason Mefford: I love New Orleans.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh my god, I want to talk to you all day. But we have to go. Okay, so everybody

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And thanks for having me on.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh, you’re so great.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, I’m Kathy group, I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason method I can be reached at Jason method calm, so go out unlock your potential and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcasts. So, yeah.

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